Too early to talk about draft

[blstoker]

Maybe he's trying to tank his draft stock in hopes to fall to the Chiefs at the end of the first round?

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Maybe he's trying to tank his draft stock

If so he's doing a good job of it. Won't test on his pro day, got measured and ran a few drills but no 40, no short shuttle, no 3 cone and he looked bad doing the drills.

Carter career stats college: 83 tackles, 18.5 TFL, 6 sacks, 0 int, 4 PD, 2 FF, 0 FR

Andersons stats in college: 205 tackles, 62 TFL, 34.5 sacks, 1 int, 4 PD, 1 FF, 0 FR

 

[blstoker]

If so he's doing a good job of it. Won't test on his pro day, got measured and ran a few drills but no 40, no short shuttle, no 3 cone and he looked bad doing the drills.

Carter career stats college: 83 tackles, 18.5 TFL, 6 sacks, 0 int, 4 PD, 2 FF, 0 FR

Andersons stats in college: 205 tackles, 62 TFL, 34.5 sacks, 1 int, 4 PD, 1 FF, 0 FR

Yeah, with what's going on he could easily fall quite far.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

I know this YOUTUBE is just an opinion, but I'm seeing Carter's stock plummet more and more. Work ethic concerns from various scouts, the car accident scene, combine has looked sloppy...



I wonder if he gets a big contract (fully guaranteed) as a top 5 pick if he's just going to Haynesworth it up. Pete has taken guys with off field concerns, but he's always looked for guys that are athletic and buy into building a winning team/organization.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

I know this YOUTUBE is just an opinion, but I'm seeing Carter's stock plummet more and more. Work ethic concerns from various scouts, the car accident scene, combine has looked sloppy...



I wonder if he gets a big contract (fully guaranteed) as a top 5 pick if he's just going to Haynesworth it up. Pete has taken guys with off field concerns, but he's always looked for guys that are athletic and buy into building a winning team/organization.

Wondering if they take the kid from Tech

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Wondering if they take the kid from Tech

Yah Wilson, Anderson, or trade down is seeming more and more likely. Carter is starting to drop in some mock drafts (to like almost #10). It would actually probably be better if he does get drafted later because he wont get the money, want a payday and try harder for his rookie contract... and MAY mature/get swept up in the NFL. No question the talent is there, but it clearly seems the mental aspect is not.

It really ALL depends on what the Cards do. Because with the Panthers #1, Texans #2, Colts #4, I'm picturing all three will take QBs. That leaves with Arizona between Carter, Anderson, Gonzalez, or trading down to the Raiders for a ransom as the Raiders have been linked to Richardson. And Arizona MUST improve their OL and even receivers... or even running game... their offense is absolutely abysmal outside of Hopkins and what the midget can muster up.

Given the desperation for cheap QBs (why Geno's Smith was so great), you may very well see QB go in the first 4 picks.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Yah Wilson, Anderson, or trade down is seeming more and more likely. Carter is starting to drop in some mock drafts (to like almost #10). It would actually probably be better if he does get drafted later because he wont get the money, want a payday and try harder for his rookie contract... and MAY mature/get swept up in the NFL. No question the talent is there, but it clearly seems the mental aspect is not.

What we need is for Atlanta to throw the house to AZ to move up to 3 so Anderson falls to 5 which is a pipe dream but that's my hope. I will say if any coach can get a kid back on track it's Pete but he has to be 100% confident cause Seattle doesn't get many chances at a top 5 pick.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

What we need is for Atlanta to throw the house to AZ to move up to 3 so Anderson falls to 5 which is a pipe dream but that's my hope. I will say if any coach can get a kid back on track it's Pete but he has to be 100% confident cause Seattle doesn't get many chances at a top 5 pick.

I mean it would suck since it means Arizona is likely getting a 2024 1st rounder and improving their offensive line or getting Robinson, but yah. Anderson is the best thing we could snatch at this point. Trading down is 2nd to that, and Wilson is 3rd to that.

That's not a knock on Wilson, but I just don't consider him THAT much more of a beast then some other guys in a VERY deep DL draft. Carter has red flags all over him at this point... #5 overall gets you $20M fully guaranteed... Carter may just mail it in at that point.

All said, it REALLY sucks the Broncos won that last game, because if we were drafting #3 overall Anderson would be ours guaranteed at this point. Course Pete would probably pass on him and draft Bijan Robinson... so who the fuck knows. If Anderson is there at 4 and the Colts take him, a shark 'incident' may pop up in Indy.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

 

[blstoker]

Job interview of a lifetime and he appears to be blowing it. Could cost him millions.

 

[JMR]

Not impressive for Carter for sure. If that takes him out the running for us and we end up with DE Wilson instead, I think that's just fine.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

For the team acquiring him in a trade the cap hit would be less than 5 million, mmm sounds interesting.

 

[blstoker]

For the team acquiring him in a trade the cap hit would be less than 5 million, mmm sounds interesting.

No, for the team acquiring him the cap hit would be $10.125 million ($9.125 million base salary + $1,000,000 roster bonus).

 

[HaroldSeattle]

No, for the team acquiring him the cap hit would be $10.125 million ($9.125 million base salary + $1,000,000 roster bonus).

Guess I should have looked closer, 10 million is sort of steep.

 

[blstoker]

Guess I should have looked closer, 10 million is sort of steep.

Yeah, they probably aren't gonna get many suitors with that cap hit - so they may just cut bait and run.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Kelly was so so last year but he's almost 30. I get Centers can play well into their mid 30s, but dunno on this one. I think Seattle is just gonna be stuck drafting a center, all the good let alone average ones are basically gone.

BTW - is Shane Waldron staying with us? Because if he leaves this whole fuckin' thing is gonna come collapsing down.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Kelly was so so last year but he's almost 30. I get Centers can play well into their mid 30s, but dunno on this one. I think Seattle is just gonna be stuck drafting a center, all the good let alone average ones are basically gone.

BTW - is Shane Waldron staying with us? Because if he leaves this whole fuckin' thing is gonna come collapsing down.

Have to fill holes and should use the FA market if possible in addition to the draft, at the right cost Kelly could work ( if he is cut) but given contracts being given he'll likely be too expensive.

 

[MrS]

Im fine with taking Wilson at 5, maybe if carter makes it to 20 you take a chance on him. otherwise kancey would be a good pick at 20 to round out the DL.

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

I know this YOUTUBE is just an opinion, but I'm seeing Carter's stock plummet more and more. Work ethic concerns from various scouts, the car accident scene, combine has looked sloppy...



I wonder if he gets a big contract (fully guaranteed) as a top 5 pick if he's just going to Haynesworth it up. Pete has taken guys with off field concerns, but he's always looked for guys that are athletic and buy into building a winning team/organization.

Was reading up on some stuff about him and apparently he’s messed up in the head right now losing a teammate and staffer in that accident, he seems depressed, uninspired right now… Pete is good at reaching young players mentally, so let’s not count out Seattle grabbing him regardless, he’s a talent, it’s all there, at NT he’d absolutely hold the line and improve our run D, provide pressure up the gut in the 3-4 …

 

[MrS]

Good vid advocating for carter

I didnt know he used his own scholarship to make sure a walk on player could eat lunch every day.