Tigers sign Justin Upton

[Nosferatu]

the tigers have 3 guys in their lineup older than 30.... 6 of them are 28 or younger.... so yeah.. that was a dumb comment.

Let's also remember you mentioned Miggy and Victor not all the kids 28 and younger...

 

[Nosferatu]

sure is fun watching twins fans dream of actually fielding a team win a playoff series.

Sure is fun saying the Twins have won two World Series Titles since Detroit last won one...

 

[MiamiVice]

Sure is fun saying the Twins have won two World Series Titles since Detroit last won one...

minnesota.. sports mecca... lol

 

[Nosferatu]

minnesota.. sports mecca... lol

LOL, looks like you've run out of things to say. Have a good night buddy...

 

[da55bums]

LOL, looks like you've run out of things to say. Have a good night buddy...

he hasn't got to use those lines the last few years, he had to dust them off, well because they are just classics, lol.

 

[MiamiVice]

he hasn't got to use those lines the last few years, he had to dust them off, well because they are just classics, lol.

do you just follow me around this site?

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Padres get a draft pick from the Tigers I believe, knew he was gone so at least they got something for him.

Detroit's first is protected. The second first rounder is Washington's for Zimmerman, so Padres only get a 2nd round pick.

But the Pads do have KC's pick.

 

[Bolts]

Detroit's first is protected. The second first rounder is Washington's for Zimmerman, so Padres only get a 2nd round pick.

But the Pads do have KC's pick.

At least they got something for him, even if it's just a second round pick. I read last night that the Padres have 6 picks in the top 100, they really need to have a good draft. After years of poor draft picks, they're due for one.

 

[calsnowskier]

Detroit lose's those picks, yes. But Washington and San Diego each get a sandwich pick. The "former team" has not received the actual pick for years.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

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Detroit lose's those picks, yes. But Washington and San Diego each get a sandwich pick. The "former team" has not received the actual pick for years.

It was just said like that to avoid confusion. Figured everybody knew that the pick that goes to the team receiving compensation comes at the end of the first (and in the case of SD, second) round by now.

 

[calsnowskier]

Detroit's first is protected. The second first rounder is Washington's for Zimmerman, so Padres only get a 2nd round pick.

But the Pads do have KC's pick.

How could this post be read to mean anything other than what it says?

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

How could this post be read to mean anything other than what it says?

How is it wrong other than the fact I didn't say the position because who could possibly give that much of a fuck lol

 

[calsnowskier]

How is it wrong other than the fact I didn't say the position because who could possibly give that much of a fuck lol

It isn't accurate in ANY way.

The Padres receive a 1st rounder for Kennedy (first pick in comp phase - currently #26) and a 1st rounder for Upton (currently #33)

The Royals lost their 1st rounder for signing Kennedy. The Tigers lost their 2nd rounder for signing Zimmerman and now their 3rd rounder for signing Upton. They still have their #1 (#9) which is protected.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

It isn't accurate in ANY way.

The Padres receive a 1st rounder for Kennedy (first pick in comp phase - currently #26) and a 1st rounder for Upton (currently #33)

The Royals lost their 1st rounder for signing Kennedy. The Tigers lost their 2nd rounder for signing Zimmerman and now their 3rd rounder for signing Upton. They still have their #1 (#9) which is protected.

Ohh, alright. Didn't know they turned whatever picks into first rounders regardless.

Also, I hate this system so so much.

 

[calsnowskier]

I like there being compensation. It tends to help the smaller teams.

Ultimately, I want teams to all have a better chance to keep "their" players. The QO system helps get to this, but it is not perfect.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I like there being compensation. It tends to help the smaller teams.

Ultimately, I want teams to all have a better chance to keep "their" players. The QO system helps get to this, but it is not perfect.

I just think there should be a better chance to sign them long-term earlier. Once a guy hits free agency, he should be allowed to do as he pleases. The arbitration process makes it easy for both sides to see the benefit in forgoing any long-term deal.

Of course, opt-outs are also changing things big time.

 

[The Q]

At least they got something for him, even if it's just a second round pick. I read last night that the Padres have 6 picks in the top 100, they really need to have a good draft. After years of poor draft picks, they're due for one.

They could've gotten Michael Fulmer for him at the TD.

Now the Tigers get Fulmer (a good pitching prospect) and Upton for half a year of cespedes and a 3rd round pick.

They win.

 

[The Q]

I like there being compensation. It tends to help the smaller teams.

Ultimately, I want teams to all have a better chance to keep "their" players. The QO system helps get to this, but it is not perfect.

that's what they want you to believe.

The system didn't help SD all that much losing upton. That's for sure.

This system has nothing to do with the myth that is "competitive balance." It's all about suppressing player costs.

 

[scoutyjones2]

Good pickup by Detroit.

 

[calsnowskier]

that's what they want you to believe.

The system didn't help SD all that much losing upton. That's for sure.

This system has nothing to do with the myth that is "competitive balance." It's all about suppressing player costs.

Yes and no.

Theoretically the Padres can't compete with the big boys (Yanks, BSox, Angels, Didgers, Giants, Tigers, etc), so they are unable to sign their big FAs. The QO system allows these teams to restock their system when they lose these players.

The problems comes from two directions...

1) It is BS to say that the Pads cannot have a competitive payroll. Sure, they probably cannot hit the 300M level, but they should (and have) sit at the 100-120M level.

2) Just having the picks does not guarantee they will not waste the picks. The Pads have basically lived in the top 10 for the last 20 years or so. Who have the drafted? Conversely, the Giants were in the top 10 for 4 years, and they hit on each pick (Timmeh, Bumgarner, Posey, Wheeler). That led to 3 in 5.