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There will be no Spring College Football season

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You keep saying the NCAA would have to re-write these bylaws and they just wouldn't. They'd just have to sign off on the plan that was implemented by the conferences. And I'm not sure if you just aren't smart enough to figure this out but I'll lay it out again:

Summer Camp - Even
All teams are currently practicing.

Season Fall - Even
B10/P12 don't play or practice in the Fall
B12/ACC/SEC Play and practice in the fall

Season Spring - Even
B10/P12 play and practice in the Spring
B12/ACC/SEC Don't play and practice in the Spring

Spring Practice - Even
B10/P12 move spring practice to before Spring Season, have 15 allowable practices
B12/ACC/SEC choose to hold their spring practice as they normally would, 15 allowable practices

What about that is uneven to you?

I've never said "re-write" anything, you flaming idiot. I've used the term "amend" to make things equitable. "Re-write" and "Amend" are not one in the same.

The Big 10 teams are using their pre-football season practices as we speak. You even admitted as such regarding Jim Hairbawl. "I've heard Harbaugh is still practicing the team like it's summer camp."

Unless Big 10 teams are limited to 15 days of practice for a spring schedule (bylaw), then things will not be equitable for the SEC, Big 12, or ACC, and will need to be amended for equality.

Active season practice is insignificant to the issue.

I swear, it's plainly obvious many here (mainly libtards) have never entered into a contract.
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Just a question for those who believe in spring football.

If it is "too dangerous" to play now, what is going to change that will make is "safe enough" to play in January or March?

They are setting the players up but will end up pulling the rug out from under them again.
 

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Just a question for those who believe in spring football.

If it is "too dangerous" to play now, what is going to change that will make is "safe enough" to play in January or March?

They are setting the players up but will end up pulling the rug out from under them again.

agreed. the universities have an angle as to why they are 'postponing' the season for now instead of just outright cancelling.
 

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I've never said "re-write" anything, you flaming idiot. I've used the term "amend" to make things equitable. "Re-write" and "Amend" are not one in the same.

The Big 10 teams are using their pre-football season practices as we speak. You even admitted as such regarding Jim Hairbawl. "I've heard Harbaugh is still practicing the team like it's summer camp."

Unless Big 10 teams are limited to 15 days of practice for a spring schedule (bylaw), then things will not be equitable for the SEC, Big 12, or ACC, and will need to be amended for equality.

Active season practice is insignificant to the issue.

I swear, it's plainly obvious many here (mainly libtards) have never entered into a contract.
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They don't have to amend anything. When they gave players a waiver to opt out of the season, they didn't amend previous rules. They granted approve - a waiver. That's it. The NCAA has to simply sign off on the B10's plans and that's about it. No rule changes. No amendments. Just a signature. Much like when they grant waivers for students to be immediately eligible.
 

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Just a question for those who believe in spring football.

If it is "too dangerous" to play now, what is going to change that will make is "safe enough" to play in January or March?

They are setting the players up but will end up pulling the rug out from under them again.
It may not be. But it may be. Right? A vaccine could be produced by then. Treatments could be found by then - IE making it still around but less deadly and/or less of a hospitalization risk. The disease could run a natural course towords submission. Contact tracing could be dramatically better by then. Tests could be produced that provide relatively instant, and accurate, results. Allowing teams to test players immediately before play.

Sooo, a lot could happen in 6-8 months.
 
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You guys know that the remaining conferences are just waiting to see what happens with infection rates once classes resume, right?
I believe that's a big part of it. I remember a while back, a lot of univ. saying, no classroom classes, no sports.
You would almost have to believe once classes start we will see a rise in infection rates. This we will have to wait and see.
 

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They don't have to amend anything. When they gave players a waiver to opt out of the season, they didn't amend previous rules. They granted approve - a waiver. That's it. The NCAA has to simply sign off on the B10's plans and that's about it. No rule changes. No amendments. Just a signature. Much like when they grant waivers for students to be immediately eligible.

A "waiver" added after the fact IS and 'amendment' to an original set of rules, you flaming idiot.

Said 'waiver/amendment' was also provided to EVERY FBS conference across the board including the SEC, Big 12, and ACC.
You know, to keep things 'equitable'.

Again... Apples and Oranges compared to pre-season Fall Camp and Spring Practice bylaws.

You have no idea how fucking stupid you look.
 

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It may not be. But it may be. Right? A vaccine could be produced by then. Treatments could be found by then - IE making it still around but less deadly and/or less of a hospitalization risk. The disease could run a natural course towords submission. Contact tracing could be dramatically better by then. Tests could be produced that provide relatively instant, and accurate, results. Allowing teams to test players immediately before play.

Sooo, a lot could happen in 6-8 months.

"Less"?

"One life is too many", remember?
"One heart infection is too many", remember?

You fucking libtards can never keep your stories straight.

"Move the goalposts"
"Move the goalposts"
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Maybe if your a FCS conference member you can play in the spring but if you are in a bigger conference like Big 10 no chance they can pull that off in football those players that are projected to go to the draft in 2021 will sit out they won't risk injury. Plus you got a short turnaround to prepare for next season.
 
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A "waiver" added after the fact IS and 'amendment' to an original set of rules, you flaming idiot.

Said 'waiver/amendment' was also provided to EVERY FBS conference across the board including the SEC, Big 12, and ACC.
You know, to keep things 'equitable'.

Again... Apples and Oranges compared to pre-season Fall Camp and Spring Practice bylaws.

You have no idea how fucking stupid you look.
It isn't, dolt.

If I make an amendment to a rule, the amendment takes place of the rule. When you amend the constitution, you end up with a rule taking it's place. When you provide a waive to a rule, the rule stays in place and an exception is granted. The rule still is that kids can't transfer and play. When a waiver is granted to a kid, the NCAA signs off on letting them play immediately, but the rule stays in place.

The NCAA would merely need to waive some rules for the B10 and Pac12 to play in Spring. It isn't that complicated.
 

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It isn't, dolt.

If I make an amendment to a rule, the amendment takes place of the rule. When you amend the constitution, you end up with a rule taking it's place. When you provide a waive to a rule, the rule stays in place and an exception is granted. The rule still is that kids can't transfer and play. When a waiver is granted to a kid, the NCAA signs off on letting them play immediately, but the rule stays in place.

The NCAA would merely need to waive some rules for the B10 and Pac12 to play in Spring. It isn't that complicated.

Waivers/Amendments to a rule can be a temporary or permanent, you flaming idiot.

Without a rule, there is no need for waiver or amendment. There'd be no grounds for one side or the other to complain about.
In this case the temporary waiver/amendment is applied equitably. Therefore, no reason for complaints.

You are out of your league and are determined to dig yourself a deeper hole.
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"AM3NdMeNtS aRe PeRmANeNT" - maze&Blew
 

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Temporary Amendments

Temporary Amendment Sample Clauses

Fucking dumb-ass.
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But they’re temporary by design. They go through the same passage that a normal amendment goes through they just have an expiration date. Unlike a waiver which doesn’t and is what would be used in this case. They don’t pass amendments every time a kid gets a waiver to play right away.
 

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But they’re temporary by design. They go through the same passage that a normal amendment goes through they just have an expiration date. Unlike a waiver which doesn’t and is what would be used in this case. They don’t pass amendments every time a kid gets a waiver to play right away.

Good Lawt. They don't have to. Do you know why?

Because a waiver for FOR AN INDIVIDUAL has to follow the bylaw 'Waiver Rules' that apply to EVERYBODY. The rules already exist. "Does individual meet bylaw waiver rules": Yes/No

A waiver/amendment Had To Be Created to address Covid 19. It is an entirely new rule that did not previously exist in bylaws. It applies to EVERYBODY.

Unless the Big 10 and PAC agree to just 15 days of spring pre-season practice (the current bylaw that applies to EVERYBODY), there is going to need to be a amendment created that EXTENDS that 15 days. Said amendment will ALSO apply to the SEC, Big 12, and ACC for equity.

You never know when to quit being a dumb-ass, do you? You just keep moving the goalposts.
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Warren is counting on that.

Instead of one big swoop, he's slowly pulling the rug out from under you so you have a chance to step off or grab something to keep you from crashing to the floor.
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The Big 10 could use 3 indoor stadiums. Indianapolis has one. There is also one in Minneapolis. In addition, Detroit also has an indoor stadium. 7 games a weekend, could be played in those stadiums.
 

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The Big 10 could use 3 indoor stadiums. Indianapolis has one. There is also one in Minneapolis. In addition, Detroit also has an indoor stadium. 7 games a weekend, could be played in those stadiums.

LOL

That would be the shit, wouldn't it?

Economic boom for those cities.
Hotel space would be hard to come by.

Can you say Airbnb?
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LOL

That would be the shit, wouldn't it?

Economic boom for those cities.
Hotel space would be hard to come by.

Can you say Airbnb?
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It's better than nothing. I left the Midwest because of the weather and the economy. But the weather was number 1.
 

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A Spring College Football season ranks up there with some of the dumbest ideas in American history.

Only The Edsel could surpass the stupidity.
 

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Good Lawt. They don't have to. Do you know why?

Because a waiver for FOR AN INDIVIDUAL has to follow the bylaw 'Waiver Rules' that apply to EVERYBODY. The rules already exist. "Does individual meet bylaw waiver rules": Yes/No

A waiver/amendment Had To Be Created to address Covid 19. It is an entirely new rule that did not previously exist in bylaws. It applies to EVERYBODY.

Unless the Big 10 and PAC agree to just 15 days of spring pre-season practice (the current bylaw that applies to EVERYBODY), there is going to need to be a amendment created that EXTENDS that 15 days. Said amendment will ALSO apply to the SEC, Big 12, and ACC for equity.

You never know when to quit being a dumb-ass, do you? You just keep moving the goalposts.
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Jesus. You’re not very smart. Ultimately the NCAA will sign off on a season if the teams want to play. Period. The requirements for equal practice will be worked out in the next 6 months. You’re a moron if you think THAT is the reason a season won’t happen.

The real reasons spring won’t happen is because the turnaround to a Fall season, will the rona be better?, or the timelines around players leaving for the NFL.

but you can keep screaming about the obvious NCAA approval that would certainly happen, if you’d like. Like the COVID rules it would literally just require a simple vote.
 
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