The PAC12 THREAD v.2

[pistlpete]

Huskies just received a commitment from Jake Browning, 4 star recruit from Folsom, Calif.

 

[mrwallace2ku]

Perhaps they got the point Whiz, either way sounds like they dodged a life changing bullet up there.

It may be behind them now, let's hope so. One would think Coach P has drawn a line for em and any other foul play here on out and they BE GONE!

 

[RegentDenali]

Coach P is a strong disciplinarian. Miles may get off on any serious charges by the Seattle PD, but doesn't mean he's back on the team anytime soon. He could still be told to hit the road.

 

[WizardHawk]

Coach P is a strong disciplinarian. Miles may get off on any serious charges by the Seattle PD, but doesn't mean he's back on the team anytime soon. He could still be told to hit the road.

I doubt it. Hard to justify kicking a kid off the team for something he wasn't actually found guilty of doing.

He will be back in practice before the end of the week.

Doesn't mean Petersen didn't have some other way of giving them grief and holding them accountable, but he won't be released from the team for this.

 

[RegentDenali]

I doubt it. Hard to justify kicking a kid off the team for something he wasn't actually found guilty of doing.

He will be back in practice before the end of the week.

Doesn't mean Petersen didn't have some other way of giving them grief and holding them accountable, but he won't be released from the team for this.

Them becoming intimately knowledgeable with every step at the new Husky Stadium bleachers would be a great place to start. Each one over and over till they have names for them all.

 

[WizardHawk]

Man pepper-sprays police then barricades self in trailer | The Today File | Seattle Times
Coincidence this happened near UW campus shortly after it was announced that Cyler Miles would not face charges for his heinous acts after the super bowl?

 

[Olyduck]

Quick Basketball post.

Former Oregon coach Ernie Kent hired at Washington State - CBSSports.com

 

[mcnabb7542]

Quick Basketball post.

Former Oregon coach Ernie Kent hired at Washington State - CBSSports.com

Saw that last night, interesting move on the Cougs....

 

[socaljim242]

Ricky sweater-vest was fired for betting on a basketball pool. It had nothing to do with anything else. As for players out of control? lol. Was Stevens on the team during his tenure? because that's the only one I remember being a total ass hat around that era. Nice try though.

As for discipline, I was speaking purely about penalties and sloppy play and you know it. Or at least should have known it. Even Willingham's teams weren't as bad as Sark's.

Gotta love USC fan for thinking they can rewrite history to match their narrative.

You once again are shooting blanks.

T. Willingham went 0-9 and his team according to you was less penalized than Sarks team and Petes teams at USC who were usually pretty good and his Seattle team was the most penalized team in the NFL last year. You know , the year they won the Super Bowl. Maybe you need another angle because you look like an idiot trying to prove your point when T Willingham is your benchmark

 

[mcnabb7542]

T. Willingham went 0-9 and his team according to you was less penalized than Sarks

team and Petes teams at USC who were usually pretty good and his Seattle team was the most penalized team in the NFL last year. You know , the year they won the Super Bowl. Maybe you need another angle because you look like an idiot trying to prove your point when T Willingham is your benchmark

Well there is a simply explanation for Willingham's team being less penalized, he didn't have good players, hell they couldn't find the end zone offense or defense...

 

[trojanfan12]

Stanford Head Coach David Shaw had interesting comments re: Northwestern's union push. Basically, he questions what's really behind it, given that the things the players are supposedly wanting, they already get.


"curious what's really driving" the union. He said his players are given an athletic scholarship worth about $60,000 annually and have never had to pay for a health care service. "I'm as confused as anybody as to the importance of this," Shaw said. "I'm curious what's really driving it. I've seen everything, and everything that's been asked for, my understanding is it's been provided."


He also fired back at Kain Coulters comments that Stanford had rescinded a scholarship offer because of injury. He said that he couldn't elaborate on Colter's situation but he's never rescinded a scholarship because of injury and never will.

 

[mrwallace2ku]

Scholies are basically 1 year contracts that can be rescinded by the schools at anytime...seems to favor the Institutions and not the student athletes. HC gets dropped as soon as the scholie gets dropped. Shaw is in the wrong here.

 

[trojanfan12]

Scholies are basically 1 year contracts that can be rescinded by the schools at anytime...seems to favor the Institutions and not the student athletes. HC gets dropped as soon as the scholie gets dropped. Shaw is in the wrong here.

I disagree to a point. Yes, scholarships are 1 year renewables, but when was the last time you heard of a kid losing a schollie for anything other than disciplinary reasons (especially in the PAC).

Even when a kid suffers a career ending injury, the school typically keeps them on as medical hardships. There have been a few instances where kids have lost a schollie because they simply turned out not to be as good as the coaches thought (coughs while saying SEC), but those are pretty few and far between.

I do agree, however, that they need to change the schollies to 4 year deals that can only be rescinded for disciplinary/academic reasons.

 

[mrwallace2ku]

^ So what happens to a kid with a "career ending" injury early into his scholie? I really don't know, seems easy for a school to dump the trash and pickup some fresh meat so to say TF.

 

[4down20]

^ So what happens to a kid with a "career ending" injury early into his scholie? I really don't know, seems easy for a school to dump the trash and pickup some fresh meat so to say TF.

If the player disagrees with the assessment, then the player can transfer to another school and play there.

Personally, I think the schools should be allowed to dump the players and give them a full scholarship even if there isn't an injury if they want.

 

[trojanfan12]

^ So what happens to a kid with a "career ending" injury early into his scholie? I really don't know, seems easy for a school to dump the trash and pickup some fresh meat so to say TF.

I honestly don't know on that one. From what I've read and heard, schools will sometimes honor scholarships for players that they have offered even if they get hurt prior to actually showing up on campus. I don't think that they are required to, but many do anyway.

As 4d20 points out they also have the option of transferring if they disagree with the schools assessment. I think that the most logical option is make them 4 year schollies that can only be rescinded due to disciplinary/academic reasons.

If the kid suffers a career ending injury then I think he should keep his schollie, but it should not count against the schools scholarship numbers for upcoming seasons. I believe that's how it works with "medical hardship" but I don't know if it's mandatory that the player be given a medical hardship schollie. Maybe 4d20 or someone knows a little more about that?

 

[mrwallace2ku]

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[963BUSC]

^ So what happens to a kid with a "career ending" injury early into his scholie? I really don't know, seems easy for a school to dump the trash and pickup some fresh meat so to say TF.

I think most schools honor their scholarships in the case of injury. I know SC does, and I hardly think SC is unique in that standard.

 

[4down20]

I honestly don't know on that one. From what I've read and heard, schools will sometimes honor scholarships for players that they have offered even if they get hurt prior to actually showing up on campus. I don't think that they are required to, but many do anyway.

Alabama just did that with a kid this offseason. Some schools pulled his offer from what I gathered. He went to immediate medical scholarship and didn't count against the limits. Considering the money involved, it seems odd to me that schools wouldn't honor it. Alabama/Saban was accused of only doing it for PR reasons, which is a bonus for sure although I don't particular care for the idea that people can't just do it out of the goodness of their heart.

As 4d20 points out they also have the option of transferring if they disagree with the schools assessment. I think that the most logical option is make them 4 year schollies that can only be rescinded due to disciplinary/academic reasons.

I hate the 4 year scholarship idea. If a kid isn't performing, they why keep him around? They get their scholarship and then they lay around for 4 years being Jamarcus Russell because they know they are going to get that scholarship either way? I'm all for benefiting the kid, but it has to be within reason. This is why I'd like to see teams being able to put players on a regular scholarship, but not be on the team even if not for medical issues. Then 4 year ones would make more sense.

If the kid suffers a career ending injury then I think he should keep his schollie, but it should not count against the schools scholarship numbers for upcoming seasons. I believe that's how it works with "medical hardship" but I don't know if it's mandatory that the player be given a medical hardship schollie. Maybe 4d20 or someone knows a little more about that?

Yes that is how medical scholarships work. They don't count towards the 85 but they still get to finish school. As I said above, I'd like to see that extended to any reason the school wants, not just for medical. Benefits the kids because they get to finish school, benefits the teams because they aren't made to carry around dead weight.

 

[WhiteMamba]

So as long as you study and put forth effort to keep up the grades and don't act like a jackass and get arrested you are receiving a quarter million dollar education and free medical for 4 or 5 years?

Well, when you put it that way, these kids should feel privileged to represent the University on the football field.

I know that is an extreme as far as Stanford and tuition go, but none the less, even a $20,000 a year education is a blessing. On a 4 or 5 year athletic skolly that equates to well over $100,000 when including medical and all of the other perks.

So you are 22 or 23 and you have been cleared of $100k+ debt because you are a standout athlete. I take that without a spoken word except THANK THE LORD!!! lol

Not to mention, a former collegiate student athlete with a degree on a resume for a young man is quite a booster which gives a huge leg up on the job market.