THE PAC 12 THREAD v.5

[AlaskaGuy]

Todd Graham Doesn't Receive Contract Extension for 1st Time at ASU

 

[WizardHawk]

Well in that same regard, USC lost to Bama and their biggest claim to hold their ranking was a win over UW and beating a PSU team that wasn't considered world beaters themselves. ND was a joke last season so that win, albeit a blow out, wasn't a real test either.

Both teams played more consistently than any other team in the conference last year and both looked intimidating at times, even if they also had head scratching games.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

the Gekko Files: Josh Rosen and Jim Mora reunited

 

[socaljim242]

Well in that same regard, USC lost to Bama and their biggest claim to hold their ranking was a win over UW and beating a PSU team that wasn't considered world beaters themselves. ND was a joke last season so that win, albeit a blow out, wasn't a real test either.

Both teams played more consistently than any other team in the conference last year and both looked intimidating at times, even if they also had head scratching games.

Yeah other than beating the PAC champion at home, The South champ and the BG10 champ in the Rose Bowl , ending the year with the second longest winning streak in the nation, USC didn't really do anything.

 

[socaljim242]

UW having the same level of schedule as last year means they aren't under the same 'prove it' doesn't it? I mean they have already proven they can carry a mediocre/sub standard schedule into November and take the north. By definition they are the team with the target on their back from that division. That is coming from a different area than all but USC in the conference right now.

I wasn't speaking about playoff or national championship level expectations, but specifically winning your division and challenging for the conference title.

I don't want to see UCLA beat USC because I think it's an easier path or UW. I want to see UCLA beat USC because I freaking can't stand that school. Period. Stop. That's it. I was pulling for Penn State in the RB.

Whoever wins the south will present problems for UW should they be in the CCG. A team that can derail USC has to be dangerous. While UW is the favorite for the north, I haven't exactly already crowned them. It doesn't take many problems along the way to derail a run for the conference. Ask USC about last year. Finished in the top 10 nationally and yet couldn't play in the CCG because of a couple of early season missteps. It's not impossible for that to happen to us this year. Stanford is very capable of giving them a run for their money and I still expect WSU to randomly win the north some year. The other 3 are surely capable of upsetting a quality team at the very least.

If I had to place a wager now I'd put UW and USC in the CCG, but would not be surprised in the least to have either or both missing from it. That's what makes college football so great. The unexpected happens quite often.

Stanford can Fk up both USC and the Huskys season. At least you guys get them later. I think that's a plus for you who have more depth. Your strength is DBs and their passing game is suspect so you guys can attack the run with abandon.

 

[WizardHawk]

Stanford can Fk up both USC and the Huskys season. At least you guys get them later. I think that's a plus for you who have more depth. Your strength is DBs and their passing game is suspect so you guys can attack the run with abandon.

Stanford will again be breaking in some potentially dangerous pieces in some key roles. Catching them early before they reach their stride might not work against you nearly as much as you think.

If you ask me which team is likely to grow more from the start of the season to that point I might pick Stanford over UW outside of that secondary you referenced. UW simply won't be breaking in as many starters and key role players.

 

[socaljim242]

Stanford will again be breaking in some potentially dangerous pieces in some key roles. Catching them early before they reach their stride might not work against you nearly as much as you think.

If you ask me which team is likely to grow more from the start of the season to that point I might pick Stanford over UW outside of that secondary you referenced. UW simply won't be breaking in as many starters and key role players.

I can see that point. From the way you guys have recruited replacing your DBs wont be that bad. You've got three games before you get a PAC game by then they will be ready. Gonna be an interesting season.

 

[wazzu31]

Stanford will again be breaking in some potentially dangerous pieces in some key roles. Catching them early before they reach their stride might not work against you nearly as much as you think.

If you ask me which team is likely to grow more from the start of the season to that point I might pick Stanford over UW outside of that secondary you referenced. UW simply won't be breaking in as many starters and key role players.

Stanford is going to be a cake walk this year whether it's the beginning or end of the year.

 

[WizardHawk]

Stanford is going to be a cake walk this year whether it's the beginning or end of the year.

Don't bet the farm on that one (see what I did there).
Stanford has solid players on both lines which always make them a threat and their single biggest questionmark is replacing the productivity at RB after CM left. They have a lot of talent returning from a defense that came together after the losses to UW and WSU and held firm. They are replacing a pass rusher and I think one from the secondary, but they did lose a lot of depth and may be thin at some key positions so they better stay healthy.

They were not very good in the passing game last year and that's why people will write them off, but that may be a bit premature.

I like our chances right now on paper, but anyone not taking them seriously as a dangerous and real contender in the conference this year is not paying attention to what Shaw does down there.

 

[socaljim242]

Don't bet the farm on that one (see what I did there).
Stanford has solid players on both lines which always make them a threat and their single biggest questionmark is replacing the productivity at RB after CM left. They have a lot of talent returning from a defense that came together after the losses to UW and WSU and held firm. They are replacing a pass rusher and I think one from the secondary, but they did lose a lot of depth and may be thin at some key positions so they better stay healthy.

They were not very good in the passing game last year and that's why people will write them off, but that may be a bit premature.

I like our chances right now on paper, but anyone not taking them seriously as a dangerous and real contender in the conference this year is not paying attention to what Shaw does down there.

The thing about Stanford is they have the ability and the will to muck up a game if they feel they dont have the firepower to win a high scoring game.

 

[Olyduck]

Oregon flipped 4* Ath Braden Lenzy from Notre Dame. Lenzy is from Oregon. has offers from Cal, Colorado, Illinois, Mich St, Notre Dame, Oregon State, Purdue, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Utah, WSU

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Isaac Taylor-Stuart, St Augustine, Cornerback <--- he's supposed to announce tomorrow. He's a USC lean but UW has an outside chance.

 

[jon2tanman]

 

[socaljim242]

Isaac Taylor-Stuart, St Augustine, Cornerback <--- he's supposed to announce tomorrow. He's a USC lean but UW has an outside chance.

That's an important get for USC. San Diego has been good to USC and getting the best players from there is a must.
Marcus Allen
Reggie Bush
Jr Seau

 

[socaljim242]

Good read on recruiting.

Rivals.com - Rivals100 Five-Star Challenge: Ten takeaways for West region

 

[socaljim242]

SEC speed? 4 of the top 6 are PAC players

17 for '17: College football's fastest players

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Pac-12 coaching job rankings: USC leads, and a sharp drop after the top tier

Can Washington Football Team overcome USC allure for top recruits?

 

[socaljim242]

Can Washington Football Team overcome USC allure for top recruits?

I think we find out this recruiting class . USC is no longer under sanctions. No longer has an ego driven offense only coach. From what i'm reading USC is set to get a top 5 class.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

I think we find out this recruiting class . USC is no longer under sanctions. No longer has an ego driven offense only coach. From what i'm reading USC is set to get a top 5 class.

Nobody in the PAC is going to out recruit SC. USC has so much talent in SoCal to choose from that its insane. Washington will be happy if they can finally finish in the top 20.

 

[Olyduck]

Pac-12 coaching job rankings: USC leads, and a sharp drop after the top tier

I agree with first half. would prob have Utah higher. Oregon state last.