THE PAC 12 THREAD v.5

[AlaskaGuy]

 

[RegentDenali]

Espn releases its 2017 bowl schedule.

ESPN’s Industry-Leading 2017-18 College Football Bowl Schedule - ESPN MediaZone

 

[RegentDenali]

With the early signing period officially a go for 3 days in later Dec., another big change to cfb could be coming.

--The American Football Coaches Association is forwarding a proposal to the NCAA that would allow players to participate in up to four games of a season without burning their redshirt year. If passed, theoretically, a coach could unleash his touted four-star freshman running back in the TaxSlayer Bowl.

“I think that would be pretty intriguing to some of the fan bases,” said AFCA executive director Todd Berry, “which might legitimize some of those bowl games and make them more interesting.

Following the AFCA’s board meetings last week in Phoenix, Berry said that while McCaffrey and Fournette made headlines, players shutting it down before a lower-tier bowl game is “not a new thing.” While those particular stars dealt with legitimate health issues last season, others in the past might develop a “magic injury” right before the bowl.

But bowl games aren’t the primary impetus behind Berry’s proposal, one he says garnered “unanimous” support at the AFCA’s convention last January.

With the season getting ever-longer (15 games for the two teams that reach the national championship) and the average number of plays per game ever-increasing, coaches often see their teams decimated by injuries at a certain position. At which point they may face the desperation decision of lifting a guy’s redshirt late in the season and thus burning an entire year of eligibility.

The AFCA’s proposal falls somewhere between the current “five years to play four” model and that of those like Florida State’s Jimbo Fisher who’ve advocated for simply giving guys five years of eligibility. Players would have to be members of the team at the start of the season; December enrollees could not come in and immediately suit up for the bowl game.

The rule would eliminate the need for injured players to apply for “medical redshirts.” Advocates believe allowing redshirts on the field for a few games could also help prevent injuries by allowing their main contributors more rest.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

With the early signing period officially a go for 3 days in later Dec., another big change to cfb could be coming.

--The American Football Coaches Association is forwarding a proposal to the NCAA that would allow players to participate in up to four games of a season without burning their redshirt year. If passed, theoretically, a coach could unleash his touted four-star freshman running back in the TaxSlayer Bowl.

“I think that would be pretty intriguing to some of the fan bases,” said AFCA executive director Todd Berry, “which might legitimize some of those bowl games and make them more interesting.

Following the AFCA’s board meetings last week in Phoenix, Berry said that while McCaffrey and Fournette made headlines, players shutting it down before a lower-tier bowl game is “not a new thing.” While those particular stars dealt with legitimate health issues last season, others in the past might develop a “magic injury” right before the bowl.

But bowl games aren’t the primary impetus behind Berry’s proposal, one he says garnered “unanimous” support at the AFCA’s convention last January.

With the season getting ever-longer (15 games for the two teams that reach the national championship) and the average number of plays per game ever-increasing, coaches often see their teams decimated by injuries at a certain position. At which point they may face the desperation decision of lifting a guy’s redshirt late in the season and thus burning an entire year of eligibility.

The AFCA’s proposal falls somewhere between the current “five years to play four” model and that of those like Florida State’s Jimbo Fisher who’ve advocated for simply giving guys five years of eligibility. Players would have to be members of the team at the start of the season; December enrollees could not come in and immediately suit up for the bowl game.

The rule would eliminate the need for injured players to apply for “medical redshirts.” Advocates believe allowing redshirts on the field for a few games could also help prevent injuries by allowing their main contributors more rest.

UW might have Marlon T if that early signing was in effect last year.

 

[Olyduck]

UW might have Marlon T if that early signing was in effect last year.

Maybe but just because they can sign early doesn't mean they have to or will

 

[WizardHawk]

Maybe but just because they can sign early doesn't mean they have to or will

It's a dual edged sword.

There might be more pressure on kids to take advantage of that window and a few will end up signing and regretting it, but that signing period is more for the other players who simply want to stop being slammed with endless communications from other teams trying to aggressively flip them when they firmly have their minds made up and just want the circus to end. Either way, I'd imagine the rule isn't going to have any impact on the majority of kids. Most will likely end up staying through the process to the end. And they should if there is any doubt at all what they want to do.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Maybe but just because they can sign early doesn't mean they have to or will

Hence the reason I wrote 'might have'.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Maybe but just because they can sign early doesn't mean they have to or will

How Did Oregon Pull off the Coup of the CFB Recruiting Season?

 

[RegentDenali]

I see headaches for the early signing period and tons of potential drama. While most will stick with their commitments, it raises some questions about how even harder schools will go nuclear on attempting flips on commits who telegraph they'll be signing early. What happens when a early signer claims a few weeks later in Jan that they want to reneg on the LOI and sign somewhere else.

Some schools will have to have their $$$ bagman making the drop offs, parents and recruits mysteriously decked out in thousands of dollars of new sports apparel and Jordans, and boosters getting any immigration issues magically fixed earlier than normal.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

I see headaches for the early signing period and tons of potential drama. While most will stick with their commitments, it raises some questions about how even harder schools will go nuclear on attempting flips on commits who telegraph they'll be signing early. What happens when a early signer claims a few weeks later in Jan that they want to reneg on the LOI and sign somewhere else.

Some schools will have to have their $$$ bagman making the drop offs, parents and recruits mysteriously decked out in thousands of dollars of new sports clothing and Jordans, and boosters getting any immigration issues magically fixed earlier than normal.

USC boosters are already on this if I had to guess.

 

[RegentDenali]

USC boosters are already on this if I had to guess.

Now, now. Lets not start naming names. That list of recruiting tactics that could be in violation of NCAA bylaws was was in no targeting a single violator
It could easily involve at least 2 or more schools in our conf or elsewhere.
To insinuate that specific members of tPAC would resort to such "illegal and immoral" tactics would be an exercise in character assassination. Especially since they have no recent history of such transgressions.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Now, now. Lets not start naming names. That list of recruiting tactics that could be in violation of NCAA bylaws was was in no targeting a single violator
It could easily involve at least 2 or more schools in our conf or elsewhere.
To insinuate that specific members of tPAC would resort to such "illegal and immoral" tactics would be an exercise in character assassination. Especially since they have no recent history of such transgressions.

Oregon or SC ? Willie Lyles comes to mind.

 

[Olyduck]

Oregon or SC ? Willie Lyles comes to mind.

you mean a guy who was associated to the school for 1 recruit who never played a single down for Oregon and 3 head coaches ago?

 

[AlaskaGuy]

you mean a guy who was associated to the school for 1 recruit who never played a single down for Oregon and 3 head coaches ago?

NCAA punishes Chip Kelly, not that it matters now

 

[socaljim242]

Let the whining begin. Waaaaaaa they took our player.

 

[wazzu31]

Damn, this is going to hurt a school like UW who usually waits to poach Washington State commits after their recruits are poached.

 

[socaljim242]

Damn, this is going to hurt a school like UW who usually waits to poach Washington State commits after their recruits are poached.

LOL. I wonder what those Husky boosters offer those players to flip.

 

[WizardHawk]

LOL. I wonder what those Husky boosters offer those players to flip.

A chance to go to a real school that isn't in the middle of nowhere and gives a diploma that is actually worth something.

 

[socaljim242]

A chance to go to a real school that isn't in the middle of nowhere and gives a diploma that is actually worth something.

 

[Olyduck]

NCAA punishes Chip Kelly, not that it matters now

cool article from 4 years ago. 3 coaches ago and the player in question is in some indoor minor league.