The No-Looking at Stats Comparison Game

[Omar 382]

Mike Cameron. Pete Incaviglia or Pat Burrell?

 

[kcden]

Incaviglia... I think...

Deion Sanders or Otis Nixon?

 

[Omar 382]

Incaviglia... I think...

Deion Sanders or Otis Nixon?

Nixon. Dave Winfield or Willie Stargell?

 

[kcden]

Nixon. Dave Winfield or Willie Stargell?

I feel like this one is a trick question, but I am going to go with my gut and say Stargell... and I now think I was wrong, re: Incaviglia v Burrell

Jamie Moyer or Jack Morris?

 

[Omar 382]

I feel like this one is a trick question, but I am going to go with my gut and say Stargell... and I now think I was wrong, re: Incaviglia v Burrell

Jamie Moyer or Jack Morris?

Morris. I think I was right on Nixon/Sanders but it's very close. Johan Santana or CC Sabathia?

 

[kcden]

Morris. I think I was right on Nixon/Sanders but it's very close. Johan Santana or CC Sabathia?

I think Moyer over Morris.

I'll go Santana.

Edgar Martinez or David Ortiz?

 

[Omar 382]

I think Moyer over Morris.

I'll go Santana.

Edgar Martinez or David Ortiz?

Martinez. Tris Speaker or Ken Griffey Jr.?

 

[kcden]

Martinez. Tris Speaker or Ken Griffey Jr.?

I looked a Speaker's numbers a few months back in the best at each position of all time thread... they were pretty sick, so I'll say Speaker.

Frank Thomas or Frank Robinson?

 

[Omar 382]

I looked a Speaker's numbers a few months back in the best at each position of all time thread... they were pretty sick, so I'll say Speaker.

Frank Thomas or Frank Robinson?

That's ridiculously close. Off the top of my head, Frank Robinson, but it could go either way.

I think Morris is better than Moyer. Better ERA and FIP and a higher WAR despite pitching ~300 less innings.

Dick Allen or Tony Perez?

 

[Omar 382]

Yeah, I was right, Robinson is better

 

[kcden]

That's ridiculously close. Off the top of my head, Frank Robinson, but it could go either way.

I think Morris is better than Moyer. Better ERA and FIP and a higher WAR despite pitching ~300 less innings.
Dick Allen or Tony Perez?

Don't know enough on Dick Allen or Perez, but Baseball Reference has at 50.2 WAR and Jack Morris at 43.8.

EDIT: I guess that fangraphs does have it the other way around- Morris 55.8 and Moyer 48.2

I think that Moyer is under appreciated.

 

[kcden]

Yeah, I was right, Robinson is better

I didn't check before I posted it... I thought it would be closer than it was, after I did look.

 

[Omar 382]

Don't know enough on Dick Allen or Perez, but Baseball Reference has at 50.2 WAR and Jack Morris at 43.8.

EDIT: I guess that fangraphs does have it the other way around- Morris 55.8 and Moyer 48.2

I think that Moyer is under appreciated.

I think he's overrated. A guy who had some good seasons (1998, 2002, 2003), some bad seasons (1987, 1995, 2000, 2009) and a lot of average seasons the other times. I mean honestly, his JAWS (his career WAR averaged with his best 7 year peak WAR) is right in line with the likes of Carlos Zambrano and Javier Vasquez's. He's a really good player, don't get me wrong, but I find him often overrated because of his longevity