The Great Russell Wilson

[jerseyhawksfan79]

That was me just responding, that is different than starting the converation.

Yes I understand that but do you even know why you went off the rails?

 

[Shane_O_Mac812]

Dude, are you totally lame, you sure appear to be.

PRO BOWL

105 PASSER RATNG

MVP DISCUSSION

40....40...40...TD PASSES

What about that don't you undertand?

What did the players rank him in that top 100, well?

The fact you think Pro Bowls matter tell me all I need to know.

 

[RaZon]

The fact you think Pro Bowls matter tell me all I need to know.

Think....

Wilson 8 pro bowls in 9 seasons
Matthew Stafford ...0

That doesn't tell you something?

Hell yes they matter.

 

[jarntt]

Will anyone ever actually put up numbers by some QB showing superiority over Wlson those first nine seasons? Where are they?

Most fans understand that numbers don't tell the story when crossing eras.
Most posters probably don't give enough of a shit to respond in a serious way all 5,000 of your daily questions...

 

[RaZon]

Most fans understand that numbers don't tell the story when crossing eras.
Most posters probably don't give enough of a shit to respond in a serious way all 5,000 of your daily questions...

Most fans have enought common sense to see what Wilson has done and know nobody else ever did it better in their first nine seasons.

Why would I ask questions? Nobody here can hang with any of my trivia.

 

[wazzu31]

Compare....

starts....Wilson
pro bowls.....Wilson
comp%....Wilson
yards.....Wilson
TD/INT....Wilson
passer rating...Wilson
rushing...Wilson

What about that don't you get?

-Starts have nothing to do with your question
-Pro Bowls has already been proven has nothing to do with your question.
-Completion percentage is a skew number when your 5 passing plays are high percentage throws.
-Yards is another stat that is skewed because Russell’s team is guaranteed a wild card round embarrassment when he throws for over 4,000 yards and 40 touchdowns.
-Plus I have explained to you numerous times, Wilson gets those numbers when he goes on hot stretches. Much like last year where he was in “MVP” discussions then was terrible to close out the year.
-TD/INT is a solid argument but when you attempt way less passes that skews the numbers
-Rushing there is no question you are right when you are comparing GOATS
-Now toss in wins that Russell has when his defense gives up less than 17 points for his first 4 years. So as proven, it isn’t 9 years, it is a 5 year stretch.

 

[RaZon]

-Starts have nothing to do with your question
-Pro Bowls has already been proven has nothing to do with your question.
-Completion percentage is a skew number when your 5 passing plays are high percentage throws.
-Yards is another stat that is skewed because Russell’s team is guaranteed a wild card round embarrassment when he throws for over 4,000 yards and 40 touchdowns.
-Plus I have explained to you numerous times, Wilson gets those numbers when he goes on hot stretches. Much like last year where he was in “MVP” discussions then was terrible to close out the year.
-TD/INT is a solid argument but when you attempt way less passes that skews the numbers
-Rushing there is no question you are right when you are comparing GOATS
-Now toss in wins that Russell has when his defense gives up less than 17 points for his first 4 years. So as proven, it isn’t 9 years, it is a 5 year stretch.

Well when Wilson did everything better than Montana and Brady those first nine seasons, guess what?

 

[Wazmankg]

Time to wrap this up.

Simply about numbers here, just numbers, ok?

In their first nine seasons what QB scored more points than this....

pro bowls....7
16 games played.....9
60 or better comp%...9
25 or more TD passes....7
less than 10 INT....5
passer rating a 100 or more...6
500 yards rushing....6


Add that up....49

Give me a QB who scored more points than 49 using that criteria than Russell Wilson. Just talking numbers.

Average NFL QB comp% 2021 - 65.2
Average NFL QB comp% 1981 - 54.6

Average NFL QB passer rating 2021 - 93.6
Average NFL QB passer rating 1981 - 72.9

Average NFL QB Int% 2021 - 2.2
Average NFL QB Int% 1981 - 4.3

Average NFL QB TD% 2021 - 4.8
Average NFL QB TD% 1981 - 4.2



Thread Fail. Razon Fail.

 

[returnofjakedog]

Hey, as a Seahawk's fan I'm glad there are people out there that respect Wilson for his accomplishments. He has had a great career so far.

........but 21 pages........?!?

 

[RaZon]

Average NFL QB comp% 2021 - 65.2
Average NFL QB comp% 1981 - 54.6

Average NFL QB passer rating 2021 - 93.6
Average NFL QB passer rating 1981 - 72.9

Average NFL QB Int% 2021 - 2.2
Average NFL QB Int% 1981 - 4.3

Average NFL QB TD% 2021 - 4.8
Average NFL QB TD% 1981 - 4.2



Thread Fail. Razon Fail.

And this guy never did actually compare Brady/Montana to Wilson, has no idea at all about why Wilson is so damn superior, those first nine seasons.

Wilson and it's not close!

 

[RaZon]

Hey, as a Seahawk's fan I'm glad there are people out there that respect Wilson for his accomplishments. He has had a great career so far.

........but 21 pages........?!?

You have 1000 other threads to enlighten, can't use ya here, see ya!

 

[Wazmankg]

And this guy never did actually compare Brady/Montana to Wilson, has no idea at all about why Wilson is so damn superior, those first nine seasons.

Wilson and it's not close!

What's the point? You refuse to acknowledge that era differences make straight up comparisons of QB stats from different eras completely useless.

 

[RaZon]

ONE MORE TIME

Tom Brady first nine seasons

4 pro bowls.....Wilson 7
Played in 31 less games
64 or better comp% 1.....Wilson 6
2 4000 yard season....Wilson 4
1 30 td season,,,,,Wilson 5
l less than 10 INT...Wilson 5
1 100 passer rating.....Wilson 6
rushing....ha!!!!

All Russell Wilson and not close.

Right now Wilson has a superior comp% and passer rating for the career.

 

[returnofjakedog]

You have 1000 other threads to enlighten, can't use ya here, see ya!

I respect your enthusiasm, and I appreciate your research and "stick-to-it-ness" on the subject. Like yourself, I also feel that Wilson is a great QB.

Personally, I generally like your posts and points of view. (The gifs were not meant to be a personal attack on you, but just as general humor).

But after 21 pages you are beating a dead horse, and repeating stuff. Everyone has seen all of the numbers, and discussed the nuances by this point.

As for the "see ya", it doesn't work that way here. But you already know that.

 

[RaZon]

What's the point? You refuse to acknowledge that era differences make straight up comparisons of QB stats from different eras completely useless.

Brady played in 31 less games, less pro bowls, inferior TD/INT, inferior passer rating. What are you looking at? What did Brady do better, well?

 

[sonnyblack65]

And this guy never did actually compare Brady/Montana to Wilson, has no idea at all about why Wilson is so damn superior, those first nine seasons.

Wilson and it's not close!

Sure Brady didn't start in 33 games his first 9 years, but 4SB's and 3 Lombardi's aint to bad I guess. And since 2012 , another 6 SB's. I'm sure Montana didn't start a lot of games his first nine seasons either, but think won a few SBs.

 

[RaZon]

I respect your enthusiasm, and I appreciate your research and "stick-to-it-ness" on the subject. Like yourself, I also feel that Wilson is a great QB.

Personally, I generally like your posts and points of view. (The gifs were not meant to be a personal attack on you, but just as general humor).

But after 21 pages you are beating a dead horse, and repeating stuff. Everyone has seen all of the numbers, and discussed the nuances by this point.

As for the "see ya", it doesn't work that way here. But you already know that.

What else doesn't work here is entering smebody elses thread and telling them what thy need to do. Ever see me do that, why would I care what others want to talk about? Do your thing, let othes do theirs, ok?

 

[RaZon]

Sure Brady didn't start in 33 games his first 9 years, but 4SB's and 3 Lombardi's aint to bad I guess. And since 2012 , another 6 SB's. I'm sure Montana didn't start a lot of games his first nine seasons either, but think won a few SBs.

Winning superbowls is a team thing , look at Bradshaws numbers, he sucked but.....won four SB.

Bottom line, Wilson has the best numbers of any QB ever in his first nine seasons. Notice 21 pages and nobody can.........look at these numbers they are better than Wilson's. The reason.....it can't be done.

Who can give me a QB with better numbers than Russell WIlson in those first nine seasons?

Well?

 

[returnofjakedog]

What else doesn't work here is entering smebody elses thread and telling them what thy need to do. Ever see me do that, why would I care what others want to talk about? Do your thing, let othes do theirs, ok?

It was a joke. You're taking it too seriously.

Either way you want to take it, it does work for me (or anyone else) to come here and say basically whatever they want. It isn't "your thread". You don't somehow own it just because you started it.

Again, it was a joke. I'm sure you can differentiate between that and an "attack" if you want to.

 

[Wamu]

Sure Brady didn't start in 33 games his first 9 years, but 4SB's and 3 Lombardi's aint to bad I guess. And since 2012 , another 6 SB's. I'm sure Montana didn't start a lot of games his first nine seasons either, but think won a few SBs.

Looking at Brady & Wilson's career numbers I've come to this conclusion. What Wilson has done is unmatched. When he's done playing there's a spot in Canton waiting for him.

Brady's first nine years are more impressive than Wilson's because of those shiny rings. But he can live this down.