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The Bears 2025 Free Agency Thread

justanidiot

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Especially since he plays for Dallas now.

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so now you want to go around repeating with the idiot says?

You are losing it man. I bet you were up all weekend just waiting for me to post something. lol.
 

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TJ Edwards got extended by a couple years.

Guess we aren't cutting him.

We were never cutting/looking to get rid of Edwards or Edmunds, for that matter.

Offseason talk is so annoying sometimes.

One week more...will be nice to end the speculation. I'm expecting Jeanty if he falls to us at this point. I will not be happy if we trade up for him though. Way too much smoke.
 

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We were never cutting/looking to get rid of Edwards or Edmunds, for that matter.

You dare defy the experts on this board?

One week more...will be nice to end the speculation. I'm expecting Jeanty if he falls to us at this point. I will not be happy if we trade up for him though. Way too much smoke.

Yeah, same. If he falls to us and Poles can't help himself I won't be completely pissed. I still prefer a new LT. But the other improvements to the line should make drafting a RB more palatable.

If he takes a TE though.....I'm gonna be fucking pissed.
 

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TJ Edwards reups for another 2 years after this one. 16.6 guaranteed 20 million Nice little bump for a guy who led the team in tackles.
 

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You dare defy the experts on this board?



Yeah, same. If he falls to us and Poles can't help himself I won't be completely pissed. I still prefer a new LT. But the other improvements to the line should make drafting a RB more palatable.

If he takes a TE though.....I'm gonna be fucking pissed.
Let me preface this by saying I've come to loathe the 10th pick in this draft. Too few blue chippers, bunch of "starters" for the next two days.

Won't bother me unless that TE busts, Warren is considered a blue chip player. Like i mentioned before Johnson LOVES the 2 TE set, His offense ran this set #2 or #3 in the entire NFL last season. KMET doesn't have a match on the team currently. One new blocking TE and a purhaps... that's it. Don't the Bears have other needs, 4 sure. But are any picks so critical to his entire offensive strategy? have 3 more picks in the next two days. Go grab 3 more starters. DT, Edge, OT would all work for me. BTW, Loveland has a lower floor but higher ceiling v. Warren as a TE.

But who knows, it is been pointed out before I don't know shit. I do know I've come to hate the 10th pick, which is now sooo dependant on the first 9. Hell if Carter falls, we can all hold hands and jump for joy!
 

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Won't bother me unless that TE busts, Warren is considered a blue chip player. Like i mentioned before Johnson LOVES the 2 TE set, His offense ran this set #2 or #3 in the entire NFL last season.

Okay...but every team in the NFL "loves" the 2 TE set. The Bears ran 2 TEs a ton last season. But how many targets is that second tight end actually getting? The answer? Not many. At all. And that is what matters. The Lions #2 TE last year had a whole 13 catches.

You basically put yourself in a situation to pay Kmet a lot of money to see 15-20 targets all season.

KMET doesn't have a match on the team currently. One new blocking TE and a purhaps... that's it.

Actually, the guy they signed is a pass catcher. He's seen over 40 targets and 30 catches twice in a season. He got 9 balls last year....the Lions #2 TE (BJ loves tight ends) caught 13.

But are any picks so critical to his entire offensive strategy?

Saying a TE is critical to his offensive strategy when the Bears have a capable starter and a backup already on the roster....is fucking asinine to me.

You're pretending that don't already have a pass catching TE. And look....I'm not a Kmet guy. I think he's average on his best day. But he can be really productive in a better ran offense for sure. Kmet could easily be an 80 catch guy.
 

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Okay...but every team in the NFL "loves" the 2 TE set. The Bears ran 2 TEs a ton last season. But how many targets is that second tight end actually getting? The answer? Not many. At all. And that is what matters. The Lions #2 TE last year had a whole 13 catches.

You basically put yourself in a situation to pay Kmet a lot of money to see 15-20 targets all season.



Actually, the guy they signed is a pass catcher. He's seen over 40 targets and 30 catches twice in a season. He got 9 balls last year....the Lions #2 TE (BJ loves tight ends) caught 13.



Saying a TE is critical to his offensive strategy when the Bears have a capable starter and a backup already on the roster....is fucking asinine to me.

You're pretending that don't already have a pass catching TE. And look....I'm not a Kmet guy. I think he's average on his best day. But he can be really productive in a better ran offense for sure. Kmet could easily be an 80 catch guy.
Great assessment. Wasn't exactly meaning critical to Offensive Strategy, as much as meaning critical to his offensive sets. Looking at Strategy though, noting the Lions two top TE's caught 73 passes last year. You suggesting Kmet plus the new guy they brought in produce that? Or would a Kmet / Warren do that? Looks like, yes the Bears had the same set, it was not used in the same manner. Set and use are two different things.
 

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Looking at Strategy though, noting the Lions two top TE's caught 73 passes last year.

Yeah. LaPorta caught 60 of those. TE's were targeted 100 times...with LaPorta getting 83% of the targets.

You suggesting Kmet plus the new guy they brought in produce that?

Kmet is capable of catching 73 balls all by himself. He did that in 2023.
Or would a Kmet / Warren do that?

You don't need a TE when you have other needs.

That's what I'm saying.

You're gonna draft Warren to get 80ish targets when you already have a TE that isn't a world beater but has proven he can be effective with that workload?

Looks like, yes the Bears had the same set, it was not used in the same manner. Set and use are two different things.

The Bears target tight ends 70 times versus the Lions 100. Kmet had 55 of those targets....79%...very close to LaPorta's 83% target share.

Pretty damn similar from a percentage basis of targets.

Not sure where you're going with this but you're gonna hit a brick wall.
 

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I don't see how a TE elevates this offense.

Pass protection and a better running game elevates this offense. I'm not even in the gotta get Jeanty boat but that at least makes a little sense to me.
 

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I don't see how a TE elevates this offense.

Pass protection and a better running game elevates this offense. I'm not even in the gotta get Jeanty boat but that at least makes a little sense to me.
I've been saying for some time it makes little to no sense using our valuable 10th pick on a TE. And the argument I see so many people make about how Johnson employs a lot of 12 personnel in his plays never take into effect that LaPorta accounted for 83% of the targeted TE passes in Johnson's offense last year. So obviously the second TE was primarily there just for blocking. You'd think that Warren (or Colston Loveland if he's the pick) and Kmet would all but have to evenly split the targets. Either that or one of them is gonna be getting screwed.

Still, it appears that Warren and to a lesser extent, Loveland have taken over as the top predicted pick for our boyz. The vast majority of these, if not everyone of them, is of course speculation, but it blows my mind that when the earliest mocks appeared, none of them ever had TE as our top get. Now it's the most popular. So we simply can't rule out Poles taking one of them assuming they're still on the board when we're up.
 

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I've been saying for some time it makes little to no sense using our valuable 10th pick on a TE. And the argument I see so many people make about how Johnson employs a lot of 12 personnel in his plays never take into effect that LaPorta accounted for 83% of the targeted TE passes in Johnson's offense last year. So obviously the second TE was primarily there just for blocking. You'd think that Warren (or Colston Loveland if he's the pick) and Kmet would all but have to evenly split the targets. Either that or one of them is gonna be getting screwed.

Still, it appears that Warren and to a lesser extent, Loveland have taken over as the top predicted pick for our boyz. The vast majority of these, if not everyone of them, is of course speculation, but it blows my mind that when the earliest mocks appeared, none of them ever had TE as our top get. Now it's the most popular. So we simply can't rule out Poles taking one of them assuming they're still on the board when we're up.
Exactly why I loathe this pick.
 

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Exactly why I loathe this pick.
Let's put it another way. If the Bears take a TE at 10, be it Warren or even Loveland, that tells us Johnson had his hands all over this decision. And I'll say the same thing if the 10th is used for a RB.
 

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Some analysts saying the Bears may go with Jeanty because Johnson had the 1-2 punch at RB in Detroit.

Thoughts?
 

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Some analysts saying the Bears may go with Jeanty because Johnson had the 1-2 punch at RB in Detroit.

Thoughts?
We’re definitely getting a RB this draft. If Jeanty is there, he’s probably the pick. I think he’s gone by our pick though. If not, Omarion Hampton might be an option, or several different backs later. Someone like Kaleb Johnson could be there later, and he would be an excellent choice to split time with swift.
 

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Some analysts saying the Bears may go with Jeanty because Johnson had the 1-2 punch at RB in Detroit.

Thoughts?
We’re definitely getting a RB this draft. If Jeanty is there, he’s probably the pick. I think he’s gone by our pick though. If not, Omarion Hampton might be an option, or several different backs later. Someone like Kaleb Johnson could be there later, and he would be an excellent choice to split time with swift.
I'm in complete agreement with BGFP here. I see a RB taken no later than the 3rd round. If Jeanty is gone, likely taken by your Raiders, I'm not ruling out them going with Hampton, altho my preference will be taking one of the top OTs where at least one or two should still be there at 10. Then taking the best RB still on the board at either of our two second rounders or as I just stated, no lower than our 3rd round.
 

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I'm in complete agreement with BGFP here. I see a RB taken no later than the 3rd round. If Jeanty is gone, likely taken by your Raiders, I'm not ruling out them going with Hampton, altho my preference will be taking one of the top OTs where at least one or two should still be there at 10. Then taking the best RB still on the board at either of our two second rounders or as I just stated, no lower than our 3rd round.
I'm torn on wether we go WR first and RB in the 2nd round.....we have an early pick in round 2 where we could take Hampton if we go receiver first.

We go RB first and not sure what WR would be available in round 2.

Not sure but it sounds like we may go Jeanty.....just unsure on what I would do if I were in charge.....LOL.
 

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I could see Jeanty not panning out and being worthy of being picked that high. Not saying he'd be bad but not totally convinced we should go RB that early. It's a high pick.
 
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