The ACC Thread

[douggie]

 

[bksballer89]

Where is my friend Brett the @Hitman Hart to celebrate this win?

 

[Hitman Hart]

Where is my friend Brett the @Hitman Hart to celebrate this win?

I'm here! That was a good comeback win. Weird considering they did it with defense and not offense. Need 2 more wins to go dancing, imo. Resume on paper is solid if they do that. I'm just not sure if they're going to do it, but that is okay, still a young team. Wake fans need to be patient, because Jeff Bzdelik really set Wake Basketball back. Starting to get some high for hopes for Coach Manning.

 

[Hitman Hart]

Also,

Death. Taxes. John Collins scoring 20 or more points.

 

[redseat]

I'm here! That was a good comeback win. Weird considering they did it with defense and not offense. Need 2 more wins to go dancing, imo. Resume on paper is solid if they do that. I'm just not sure if they're going to do it, but that is okay, still a young team. Wake fans need to be patient, because Jeff Bzdelik really set Wake Basketball back. Starting to get some high for hopes for Coach Manning.

I really think with that win last night Cuse is in... Last one in imo.

 

[bksballer89]

I really think with that win last night Cuse is in... Last one in imo.

I don't think the job is done yet for Cuse. I think they need 2 more wins. Beat Georgia Tech next week then win their 2nd round game in the ACC tourney and that should seal it

 

[jeffro151]

Also,

Death. Taxes. John Collins scoring 20 or more points.

It's going to be a travesty if he doesn't win ACC POY.
He is currently top 5 in:
Points pg
FG made pg
Rebounds pg
Blocks pg

 

[tabascojet]

hey rick you suck......

 

[Hitman Hart]

I really think with that win last night Cuse is in... Last one in imo.

They have some good wins, but they have a poor RPI and some terrible losses. I'm thinking they need to go 10-8 in conference play and win one in Brooklyn.

 

[Hitman Hart]

It's going to be a travesty if he doesn't win ACC POY.
He is currently top 5 in:
Points pg
FG made pg
Rebounds pg
Blocks pg

I'm legit worried that he got too good too fast. Wake has a squad next year if he comes back. If he chooses to leave for the NBA, Wake is probably going to be a bubble team again next year.

 

[Skerpokes]

Will somebody please explain to me what the point of having a security person and a police officer there is? There is an arena security person in a yellow shirt AND a uniformed police officer only feet away from all of this and they just stand there and watch. Barely even moved. Nice work people.

 

[redseat]

They have some good wins, but they have a poor RPI and some terrible losses. I'm thinking they need to go 10-8 in conference play and win one in Brooklyn.

Probably right but I think they are in... Did beat a few ranked teams

 

[jonvi]

Good game @jonvi. Cuse deserved the win. Did you guys practice all those bank shots? LOL

lmao....I was wondering where you were going with how they deserved the win. 35'....as soon as he let it go everyone knew it was going in.

 

[Hitman Hart]

Probably right but I think they are in... Did beat a few ranked teams

I mean, if they don't beat GT in the season finale, they are going to be headed into selection sunday with 15 losses. The RPI sucks, but since the commitee still uses it, we should still reference it. Syracuse has an RPI of 78 and a SOS of 51. I don't see Cuse making it in with 15 losses with a SOS that high. Fortunately for Cuse, I think they'll beat GT.

 

[redseat]

I mean, if they don't beat GT in the season finale, they are going to be headed into selection sunday with 15 losses. The RPI sucks, but since the commitee still uses it, we should still reference it. Syracuse has an RPI of 78 and a SOS of 51. I don't see Cuse making it in with 15 losses with a SOS that high. Fortunately for Cuse, I think they'll beat GT.

I'm too lazy (fully admit it)... Is it a home game v GT? if it's home they will win but on the road I see a "L" but still them getting into the Big Dance

 

[ericd7633]

Also,

Death. Taxes. John Collins scoring 20 or more points.

The national pub has started talking about his draft stock:

Wake Forest's John Collins is the best player in America nobody is talking about

I'm hoping he comes back to Wake next season. Wake will be really, really good IMO. I know I'm probably reaching here, but this current team reminds me of Utah in 2013-2014. That team had a TON of close losses, a team with a legitimate star player(Delon Wright), much like Wake with Collins. Everyone came back the following year and Utah added an impact freshman in Jacob Poeltl, and they ended up starting out the season unranked and ended up with a 5 seed and made the S16. Wake adds a potential impact freshman to their team, who will hopefully learn from the close losses, with everyone having another year of experience under their belt.

 

[Hitman Hart]

The national pub has started talking about his draft stock:

Wake Forest's John Collins is the best player in America nobody is talking about

I'm hoping he comes back to Wake next season. Wake will be really, really good IMO. I know I'm probably reaching here, but this current team reminds me of Utah in 2013-2014. That team had a TON of close losses, a team with a legitimate star player(Delon Wright), much like Wake with Collins. Everyone came back the following year and Utah added an impact freshman in Jacob Poeltl, and they ended up starting out the season unranked and ended up with a 5 seed and made the S16. Wake adds a potential impact freshman to their team, who will hopefully learn from the close losses, with everyone having another year of experience under their belt.

Great post. He's also young for his class. If he comes back, I think they are a Top 25 team next year. If he doesn't, I think they are what they are this year. A feisty bubble team. Who knows, though.

Thing I'm most excited about is that when Wake hired Manning, there were articles out there that gave Manning all of the credit in the world for developing the bigs at Kansas. Guys like Thomas Robinson, Morris twins, Jeff Withey, Cole Aldrich, etc. A lot of Wake fans didn't buy into that hype, because 1.) Bill Self is a HOF coach 2.) Wake fans have been burned on a lot of shit.

However, it looks like he's starting to do that at Wake. Collins wasn't even ranked in the Rivals 150 and he's putting up a 19.1 PPG, 9.8 RPG season as a sophomore. The scouts clearly missed on Collins and he should have been ranked much higher, but its still impressive for both the player and the coach.


That is the head basketball guy at Scout. Always love watching these recruiting analysts back track when they are absolutely wrong on someone.

 

[Hitman Hart]

3 ACC noon games, 0 2:00 PM games, 2 4:00 PM games.

This shit needs to be fixed.

 

[bksballer89]

No Grayson Allen today. Will be even tougher for Duke to win

 

[bksballer89]

Impossible to win when Allen is out and these other guys can't make 3's. I didn't have a good feeling about this game since last week. I thought they would beat Cuse and lose this one.