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The 2024-2025 NBA Basketball Season

shopson67

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My point is there's not much blame here, maybe her parents? Girl likes to party and she had a great time. American attitudes about sex are pretty prudish. It's not great it happened but 15 year olds all over the country have sex and most of them are not unwilling nor are they worse off for it.

He'll always have that as a thing people bust his balls on, but that's all it is, not some tragic crime.

Why you continue to argue this is weird. I used as an example of why bitching about Luka's whining was weird coming from a Giddey superfan, who has done worse. Statutory will always be worse than complaining to refs, agreed?
 

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Sure

Based on record the pistons should have Cade and wemby and risacher

That is insane

Imagine how bad things would be if some here had their way and the teams that win some postseason lottery tournament got the best players.

Ditch the lottery and just penalize teams for tanking blatantly instead.
 

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The Clippers were ripped for letting PG go.....but that gave them some flexibility to get pieces that fit their team. They wouldn't have been able to do so if he stayed.

And look at them now. The Clippers are a team to definitely watch this postseason......IMO.

Those rips disappeared quickly when they saw PG on the court this season.
 

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No, it is math.

Working hard to get into a “tough area” and taking a 2 point shot with a 40% success rate is bad basketball.

So you space the floor, drive and kick, move the ball and get a shot at the rim or an open 3.

That is what the good teams do and there is nothing lazy about it.

Jordan Poole jacking a 30 footer off the dribble early in the shot clock?

That is bad, lazy basketball.

Defining the era by how the bad teams play is pretty ignorant though.

Making those bad shots occasionally changes everything. Lebron and Steph taking logo shots early in the clock isn't trashed hardly ever. You can love how Steph has changed the game re: perimeter shooting, but he (along with Dame) also has ushered in these unnecessary logo hero shots.
 

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I agree.....Thibs is like most coaches. Give him talent he can win. Don't and he wont.

He really should have more pull in the personnel decisions. Could he really have been in favor of these moves in favor of offense over defense? It is so strange to see a Thibs team with such a low defensive aptitude.
 

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If you make 40% of a shot worth 2 points

Or 35% of a shot worth 3 points

Which one is a better shot for the team?

Pretty simple math.

I don’t expect you to get this one right though.

If you're only making 40% of your 2s, you're a JAG in the league at best. League average is .467 (.360 from 3) this season. For 10 attempts, the difference is 9.34 vs 10.8 and that can be overcome by the higher probability of free throws on 2s. Getting those FTs is the best proposition as the league average is .780 and it saddles your opponent with foul trouble issues.

Teams that overly rely on 3s are much more susceptible to shooting droughts as well.
 

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Multiple 2nd rounders

He'll clearly bring more than that, even if it's just less valuable firsts. Get him out of New Orleans and in a more health conscious region and change that diet. He's still a lottery ticket acquisition.

If he starts that cheap, competition will drive the price up.
 

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This really had nothing to do with eras, just shot percentages from different distances and why the midrange shot is the worst in basketball.

Only if the shooter can't hit them. Are you going to coach someone like Chris Paul to not take shots from his desired spots that seem automatic?
 

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If you're only making 40% of your 2s, you're a JAG in the league at best. League average is .467 (.360 from 3) this season. For 10 attempts, the difference is 9.34 vs 10.8 and that can be overcome by the higher probability of free throws on 2s. Getting those FTs is the best proposition as the league average is .780 and it saddles your opponent with foul trouble issues.

Teams that overly rely on 3s are much more susceptible to shooting droughts as well.
I think the 40% was using a roundish number for mid-range 2s (as 35% is for 3-ptrs). Everyone likes shots at the rim, which are also more likely to draw the foul.
 

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Only if the shooter can't hit them. Are you going to coach someone like Chris Paul to not take shots from his desired spots that seem automatic?
Now you are going from generally talking overall to specific players. Of course you modify for specific players.

Plus Chris Paul is OLD and I'm not trading for him at this point.
 

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Wow, of all the stupid shit you've posted...this is just pants on head stupid.

Let me see if I can dumb it down enough for you.

If a team shoot 100 3's and hits 36% of them that's 36 3's...you get that?

Those 36 3's give the team 108 points. Still with me?

Now, let's say another team takes 100 mid-range shots and hits 41% of them, that's 41 2's. Still following?

Those 41 mid-range shots give the team 82 points. Nod your head if you understand.

So, the team that shot the lower percentage shots scores 26 more points.

If that's still too complicated for you...I can try using crayon.

Oh, and "you gotta love this forum".

*tip of the hat to @dtgold88 :yo:
If what you were saying was in any way true of the game of basketball then only 3 pointers would be shot. You are completely wrong even though you are proud of yourself for doing the simplest math.
 

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Wow, of all the stupid shit you've posted...this is just pants on head stupid.

Let me see if I can dumb it down enough for you.

If a team shoot 100 3's and hits 36% of them that's 36 3's...you get that?

Those 36 3's give the team 108 points. Still with me?

Now, let's say another team takes 100 mid-range shots and hits 41% of them, that's 41 2's. Still following?

Those 41 mid-range shots give the team 82 points. Nod your head if you understand.

So, the team that shot the lower percentage shots scores 26 more points.

If that's still too complicated for you...I can try using crayon.

Oh, and "you gotta love this forum".

*tip of the hat to @dtgold88 :yo:

Those 2 pt shots will generate far more free throws and those 100 3 pt attempts will generate far more transition baskets for the opponent. It evens out a lot more quickly than your simple example.
 
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