The 2024-2025 NBA Basketball Season

[trojanfan12]

To be fair...Shaq probably has nightmares and bad flashbacks about Chauncey from the '04 finals.

 

[Retroram52]

Shaq, Kenny, and Barkley get paid for ANALYSIS AND COMMENTARY! If comedic relief is a component of that than so be it, but the basis for his paycheck is to know his product (analysis).

By defintion, you can't have succinct and accurate analysis without data and the knowledge thereof and Shaq is deliquent in that department if he isn't upholding his own standard and doesn't even know crucial data facts like who the HC of the Pistons is.

All three should be on top of their game and know exactly what is going on in every NBA city and then some. Otherwise his/their commentary about the performance of a given player, coach, and/or team is suspect and cannot be trusted to the level any given fan demands!

 

[logic]

Shaq, Kenny, and Barkley get paid for ANALYSIS AND COMMENTARY! If comedic relief is a component of that than so be it, but the basis for his paycheck is to know his product (analysis).

By defintion, you can't have succinct and accurate analysis without data and the knowledge thereof and Shaq is deliquent in that department if he isn't upholding his own standard and doesn't even know crucial data facts like who the HC of the Pistons is.

All three should be on top of their game and know exactly what is going on in every NBA city and then some. Otherwise his/their commentary about the performance of a given player, coach, and/or team is suspect and cannot be trusted to the level any given fan demands!

You should have never trusted Shaq's NBA analysis. It is just not what he does. Barkley does a little more, and Kenny more than both. Shaq and Barkley are just their for their names and entertainment. Barkley mostly to be the punching bag, having no rings, and loudly making picks as bad as Stephen A's.

 

[Retroram52]

You should have never trusted Shaq's NBA analysis. It is just not what he does. Barkley does a little more, and Kenny more than both. Shaq and Barkley are just their for their names and entertainment. Barkley mostly to be the punching bag, having no rings, and loudly making picks as bad as Stephen A's.

Yea, I get all that logic. I never did put much stock in Shaq and Barkley's analysis to begin with. I just was posting additional commentary into the issue raised here on the SportsHoopla.

 

[Wamu]

Wait, you don't remember Kobe ever being compared to Jordan? Are you serious or did you just start following basketball? You go dig up an article if you crave one. All you need to do is Google it.

Kobe was never compared to MJ the way LeBron is.

If you really followed the NBA, which it seems you don't, you would know that.

If you choose to disagree with me just ask any of the regulars in the NBA threads old enough to remember MJ's career and they would agree with me.

 

[dtgold88]

Kobe was never compared to MJ the way LeBron is.

If you really followed the NBA, which it seems you don't, you would know that.

If you choose to disagree with me just ask any of the regulars in the NBA threads old enough to remember MJ's career and they would agree with me.

Compared the way Lebron is as in wondering if Kobe was on MJ level or even better? Agree. He was not.

 

[Wamu]

Compared the way Lebron is as in wondering if Kobe was on MJ level or even better? Agree. He was not.

That fella just doesn't seem to understand what I've been trying to explain to him.

But when someone is a hater of a player there's no reasoning with people like that.

They will only believe what they want to believe.

And I'm not trying knock Kobe's game, he's all time great. But LeBron is on a different level than him.

 

[jarntt]

Kobe was never compared to MJ the way LeBron is.

If you really followed the NBA, which it seems you don't, you would know that.

If you choose to disagree with me just ask any of the regulars in the NBA threads old enough to remember MJ's career and they would agree with me.

You said name an NBA player compared to MJ. I named one. Now you are putting qualifiers on it because you realize you were wrong and the guy who just agreed with you agreed with me on Kobe a few pages back. I don't need people on this board to tell me conversations that went on in the real world with real people. If you are saying Kobe wasn't compared to MJ you just don't know what you are talking about

 

[dtgold88]

That fella just doesn't seem to understand what I've been trying to explain to him.

But when someone is a hater of a player there's no reasoning with people like that.

They will only believe what they want to believe.

And I'm not trying knock Kobe's game, he's all time great. But LeBron is on a different level than him.

to be fair I think he does understand. When he came into league Kobe often was compared to MJ if I remember correctly. But, no, not on level Lebron is now (or last decade or longer)

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Compared the way Lebron is as in wondering if Kobe was on MJ level or even better? Agree. He was not.

Nope, never until after he died.

 

[jarntt]

to be fair I think he does understand. When he came into league Kobe often was compared to MJ if I remember correctly. But, no, not on level Lebron is now (or last decade or longer)

I agree not to the level of LeBron and mostly because LeBron is better than Kobe was (hopefully this doesn't start the Kobe fans coming at me now ).

 

[Wamu]

You said name an NBA player compared to MJ. I named one. Now you are putting qualifiers on it because you realize you were wrong and the guy who just agreed with you agreed with me on Kobe a few pages back. I don't need people on this board to tell me conversations that went on in the real world with real people. If you are saying Kobe wasn't compared to MJ you just don't know what you are talking about

Now you're just lying. LeBron is only compared to MJ. I like how you left out that important word only.

That never happened for Kobe. <----------

You don't seem to understand what I've been saying.

And no, I am not wrong. But nice try.

 

[trojanfan12]

Shaq, Kenny, and Barkley get paid for ANALYSIS AND COMMENTARY! If comedic relief is a component of that than so be it, but the basis for his paycheck is to know his product (analysis).

By defintion, you can't have succinct and accurate analysis without data and the knowledge thereof and Shaq is deliquent in that department if he isn't upholding his own standard and doesn't even know crucial data facts like who the HC of the Pistons is.

All three should be on top of their game and know exactly what is going on in every NBA city and then some. Otherwise his/their commentary about the performance of a given player, coach, and/or team is suspect and cannot be trusted to the level any given fan demands!

I've always looked at it as Ernie and Kenny are there for analysis and commentary...Shaq and Barkley are there to make it entertaining.

 

[trojanfan12]

Compared the way Lebron is as in wondering if Kobe was on MJ level or even better? Agree. He was not.

There was a brief window, largely because of how he patterned his game after MJ, about the time he came into his own (the last couple of titles of the 3-peat) and a couple of seasons after, there was talk that maybe he could eventually at least be in the GOAT convo.

2 things happened that pretty well ended that talk....first, after Shaq left, folks started pointing out that the best Kobe could do was get his team to a 1st round exit, at about the same point in his career, when MJ had a similar team around him...he got them to the 2nd round and to the ECF.

Then, Lebron took otherwise G-League level team to the 2nd round as well as the ECF and even the finals.

That pretty well ended any Kobe fer GOAT talk.

 

[bksballer89]

 

[bksballer89]

 

[bksballer89]

Take they damn draft away and give it to Miami

 

[raptorlife4]

https://x.com/Raptors/status/189996...x.com/Raptors/status/1899965008227811409?s=19

 

[Shanemansj13]

@Pastafazul any insight?

 

[thunderc]

Let’s go Thunder!