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what the hell are you talking about? Is it really just not in you to own you are way off base (lied) about Lebron being responsible for load management?

You really should try to be even more creative if lying anyway.
 

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Honestly, none of ya competed

None of ya

An Athlete gets into his grove 3qtrs in <-----

That applies to all sports <-----

Injuries happen to all, they can’t be predicted, avoided . They happen

They had nothing of what they have today and now they decide to implement load mgmt? lol

This comment is a perfect example of why you should think before posting things.

Not all sports are broken up by quarters. When's the last time you heard a MLB announcer say- well we're heading into the 7th quarter stretch?

So to say "an athlete gets into his grove 3qtrs in" and that it "applies to all sports" is a very stupid lie on your part.
 

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This comment is a perfect example of why you should think before posting things.

Not all sports are broken up by quarters. When's the last time you heard a MLB announcer say- well we're heading into the 7th quarter stretch?

So to say "an athlete gets into his grove 3qtrs in" and that it "applies to all sports" is a very stupid lie on your part.
The comment resembles a guy that hasn't played a sport in his lifetime, if we are being honest.
 

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Classic Pastalogic....blame the 40 year old guy still playing at MVP levels for injuries and missed time throughout the league.

KAT has personal thing he's working through, don't believe it has been explained more than that? Maybe he's trying to disguise ducking the Lakers after they shut him down last time lol? Really though, hope it's not a family issue, those can be brutal.
His gf saying "fuck cancer" has me worried a bit.
 

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Will say I do wonder where 100 pitches became some threshold not to be passed (or not by too many pitches). Especially since Ps used to go well past that number and don't think injuries were more frequent (and were maybe less frequent).

I looked into that awhile back because I've never liked how Dave Roberts handles his pitchers and I wanted see the logic behind it.

There seem to be a few issues. The biggest issue seems to be the amount of pitching done prior to even getting to the minors, let alone the majors. More kids stick to one sport pretty much year round than in the past. So, pitchers no longer just play the season and then move on to the next sport.

Those breaks allowed them to rest their arms before baseball started up again. These days...most of them are playing year round which means they are throwing more pitches at a younger age. That means more wear and tear on their arms when they first enter the league than there ever used to be. Been said that is the reason it seems like Tommy John surgery is almost a rite of passage for pitchers these days.

There are other reasons as well, but that seems to be a big one.
 
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This comment is a perfect example of why you should think before posting things.

Not all sports are broken up by quarters. When's the last time you heard a MLB announcer say- well we're heading into the 7th quarter stretch?

So to say "an athlete gets into his grove 3qtrs in" and that it "applies to all sports" is a very stupid lie on your part.

I think he was speaking in general terms and not so specific.

But even then…

I’m no baseball guy, but I know enough to recognize that a lot of the pitcher stuff has to do with analytics and most starters struggling on their 3rd time through the batting order.

So the notion of hitting some type of groove and pitchers being better late in the game is absolutely refuted by data.
 

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The comment resembles a guy that hasn't played a sport in his lifetime, if we are being honest.

It's why I think his claims are pure bullshit...anyone who has played a sport beyond youth league...hell, anyone who has followed sports closely...knows the vast majority of what he posts is complete bullshit.
 

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I think he was speaking in general terms and not so specific.

But even then…

I’m no baseball guy, but I know enough to recognize that a lot of the pitcher stuff has to do with analytics and most starters struggling on their 3rd time through the batting order.

So the notion of hitting some type of groove and pitchers being better late in the game is absolutely refuted by data.
uh oh.....I'm sure you gave him an opportunity to remind us he was an athlete.
 

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It's why I think his claims are pure bullshit...anyone who has played a sport beyond youth league...hell, anyone who has followed sports closely...knows the vast majority of what he posts is complete bullshit.
This is very true...but for me the reason I don't buy it is still a real athlete at that level isn't going to feel the need to say he was a bigtime athlete so much.
 

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I looked into that awhile back because I've never liked how Dave Roberts handles his pitchers and I wanted see the logic behind it.

There seem to be a few issues. The biggest issue seems to be the amount of pitching done prior to even getting to the minors, let alone the majors. More kids stick to one sport pretty much year round than in the past. So, pitchers no longer just play the season and then move on to the next sport.

Those breaks allowed them to rest their arms before baseball started up again. These days...most of them are playing year round which means they are throwing more pitches at a younger age. That means more wear and tear on their arms when they first enter the league than there ever used to be. Been said that is the reason it seems like Tommy John surgery is almost a rite of passage for pitchers these days.

There are other reasons as well, but that seems to be a big one.

The issue is spin rate and how hard they are throwing. The average velocity is like 7 mph faster than the Nolan Ryan era. Thus, why they are much harder to hit. But it is brutal on their arms.
 

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I think he was speaking in general terms and not so specific.

But even then…

I’m no baseball guy, but I know enough to recognize that a lot of the pitcher stuff has to do with analytics and most starters struggling on their 3rd time through the batting order.

So the notion of hitting some type of groove and pitchers being better late in the game is absolutely refuted by data.

I do miss complete games being a badge of honor for pitchers.

Yes and no on the "groove". As with most things, it depends on how the game is going and how good his "stuff" is.

When he gets to that 3rd time through, but he's got good stuff and is cruising... it's okay to let him keep going but keep an eye on his velocity and pitch movement...start seeing a drop in either or both...pull him.
 

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I think he was speaking in general terms and not so specific.

But even then…

I’m no baseball guy, but I know enough to recognize that a lot of the pitcher stuff has to do with analytics and most starters struggling on their 3rd time through the batting order.

So the notion of hitting some type of groove and pitchers being better late in the game is absolutely refuted by data.
La Russa changed the game thinkin that way , let the hitter see 3 different pitchers so he couldn’t get accustomed to pitcher

How'd that work out ?

Overthinking game
 

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The issue is spin rate and how hard they are throwing. The average velocity is like 7 mph faster than the Nolan Ryan era. Thus, why they are much harder to hit. But it is brutal on their arms.
7 miles my azz

They clock at a different release pt

Typical BS to getting fans to ballpark

Enhancing the bats, tighten laces on balls, steroids , ruining the game
 

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La Russa changed the game thinkin that way , let the hitter see 3 different pitchers so he couldn’t get accustomed to pitcher

How'd that work out ?

Overthinking game
It worked out well. Since the mid 90’s BA has gone down over 25 points from .270 to .243. Runs overall are down too.

Doesn’t sound like overthinking. This is why a bullpen is implemented more in today’s game. It makes perfect sense
 
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