The 2023-2024 NBA Season

[fightinfunbags]

Virtually for free, absolutely.

Would you do Hayward and Rozier for Tobias?

I don’t want to commit to Rozier for another 2 years after this one. That’s a bad and short defensive backcourt with Maxey/Rozier. I’d do this swap for a 2nd

 

[fightinfunbags]

Where is the middle finger button when I mentioned this like 6 weeks ago and you hated it…..

I didn’t hate it haha. I just said “not a horrible option”. It’s really just a rental for playoffs.

 

[trojanfan12]

They booed Krause in 1997 too. Not sure why but they hate Krause in Chicago. It’s weird. In their entire franchise history they’ve been a dog shit organization with the exception of the teams Krause had a hand in winning 6 banners. Outside of that the Bulls have been dog shit.

He's the one who broke up the team because he wasn't getting enough credit

Not 100% sure how much of that is true...but it's the story that's been put out there for over 2 decades.

Also didn't help that he wasn't able to put together another winner.

As for the booing, that's as classless as it gets. If he was still alive and showed up and folks want to boo...okay, stupid all these years later, but at least they're booing him directly.

Were they booing her? Of course not. But he wasn't there, she was and shouldn't have been subjected to that crap.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

They booed Krause in 1997 too. Not sure why but they hate Krause in Chicago. It’s weird. In their entire franchise history they’ve been a dog shit organization with the exception of the teams Krause had a hand in winning 6 banners. Outside of that the Bulls have been dog shit.

yep

dude deserves respect

 

[trojanfan12]

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

He's the one who broke up the team because he wasn't getting enough credit

Not 100% sure how much of that is true...but it's the story that's been put out there for over 2 decades.

Also didn't help that he wasn't able to put together another winner.

As for the booing, that's as classless as it gets. If he was still alive and showed up and folks want to boo...okay, stupid all these years later, but at least they're booing him directly.

Were they booing her? Of course not. But he wasn't there, she was and shouldn't have been subjected to that crap.

Exactly.

I am totally transparent about the fact that I cannot be unbiased when it comes to Jordan.

So, I obviously see Dude as the villain.

What does any of that have to do with causing that poor woman pain?

I wouldn’t have clapped.

But, I most certainly would not boo.

That was disgusting and it broke my heart to see her crying.

 

[fightinfunbags]

He's the one who broke up the team because he wasn't getting enough credit

Not 100% sure how much of that is true...but it's the story that's been put out there for over 2 decades.

Also didn't help that he wasn't able to put together another winner.

As for the booing, that's as classless as it gets. If he was still alive and showed up and folks want to boo...okay, stupid all these years later, but at least they're booing him directly.

Were they booing her? Of course not. But he wasn't there, she was and shouldn't have been subjected to that crap.

Couldn’t agree more on both points, but would push back a little bit on the Krause being worthy of boos all these years later. When you look at the whole picture he needs to be granted that respect for the whole job. If we are talking early 2000s when this night happens…I get it. This many years removed? Time for a fan base to move on with that when the dude has had a hand in that many championships.

And I loved Jordan but what broke up the 2 3peats was MJ himself whether his stuff invoked a commissioner driven hiatus for the gambling or Jordan wanting to fuck around with baseball. For me, if I’m a Bulls guy, that needs to be mentioned around any slander on shoulda coulda woulda with Krause.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Exactly.

I am totally transparent about the fact that I cannot be unbiased when it comes to Jordan.

So, I obviously see Dude as the villain.

What does any of that have to do with causing that poor woman pain?

I wouldn’t have clapped.

But, I most certainly would not boo.

That was disgusting and it broke my heart to see her crying.

Let me ask ya this. Do the Bulls have an inkling something like that could happen? Do they deserve a little bit of criticism for putting her out there?

 

[The Q]

Exactly.

I am totally transparent about the fact that I cannot be unbiased when it comes to Jordan.

So, I obviously see Dude as the villain.

What does any of that have to do with causing that poor woman pain?

I wouldn’t have clapped.

But, I most certainly would not boo.

That was disgusting and it broke my heart to see her crying.

He deserves to be booed for bungling the summer of 2000 more than anything

But even then, I’m with you.

He’s not there.

No need to take it out on her

 

[The Q]

Let me ask ya this. Do the Bulls have an inkling something like that could happen? Do they deserve a little bit of criticism for putting her out there?

I will accept this argument

But they probably thought time heals all wounds

They were wrong

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

yep

dude deserves respect

He does.

In this situation, the words respect and credit are interchangeable.

There is no question he deserves credit.

The question has always been “how much”?

 

[msgkings322]

Steph Curry out for rest tonight

Warriors must not realize they are not a lock for the playoffs

They do. They also realize Bucks gonna stomp them with or without Curry.

Warriors know they are in a mess right now, it's all they talk about. Curry said it's insanity not to make some changes. They see what's happening too.

 

[fightinfunbags]

I will accept this argument

But they probably thought time heals all wounds

They were wrong

This is where you benefit when you’re a Philly franchise. Whenever ownership front office has conversations about stuff like this they ask the question “could they really?” The answer is Fuck yeah they could.

 

[The Q]

This is where you benefit when you’re a Philly franchise. Whenever ownership front office has conversations about stuff like this they ask the question “could they really?” The answer is Fuck yeah they could.

Except you back them against a guy with a serious major spinal injury

 

[msgkings322]

He does.

In this situation, the words respect and credit are interchangeable.

There is no question he deserves credit.

The question has always been “how much”?

Certainly enough to not boo his widow (not that you don't know this)

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Let me ask ya this. Do the Bulls have an inkling something like that could happen? Do they deserve a little bit of criticism for putting her out there?

That’s a tough one.

Dunno if they thought it’s been enough time, people have let it go.

But, after the reception from the last dance?

It was obvious that was not the case.

I actually think the documentary made it WORSE.

I was unaware that the decision had been made to end the dynasty and that nothing could change it, not even winning it all.

That was startling to me.

Nobody wants to get picked on, ostracized in the work place.

They were terrible to that man.

But, he was out of his fucking mind to believe he had as big a hand in winning as Jordan or Jackson.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Certainly enough to not boo his widow (not that you don't know this)

No.

He could have been a janitor for one summer league game and he’d deserve that common courtesy.

Those fans being fucktards is not in dispute.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

I will accept this argument

But they probably thought time heals all wounds

They were wrong

Hasn’t been that much time since the pandemic where that wound got ripped back open.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Couldn’t agree more on both points, but would push back a little bit on the Krause being worthy of boos all these years later. When you look at the whole picture he needs to be granted that respect for the whole job. If we are talking early 2000s when this night happens…I get it. This many years removed? Time for a fan base to move on with that when the dude has had a hand in that many championships.

And I loved Jordan but what broke up the 2 3peats was MJ himself whether his stuff invoked a commissioner driven hiatus for the gambling or Jordan wanting to fuck around with baseball. For me, if I’m a Bulls guy, that needs to be mentioned around any slander on shoulda coulda woulda with Krause.

That will never happen, it’s fucking Michael Jordan.

Lebron fans are nauseating.

We Jordan apologists are WORSE.

As for Krause…..

Yes, he helped build it.

Once.

Same can be said about Jordan.

But, people like me pretend the Wiz thing never happened.

He’s not Jerry West.

He didn’t help build multiple dynasties, with multiple different teams, players and across multiple decades.

I’m not going to reduce him to Tim Connelly, who also deserves credit.

But, I don’t recall Bob Myers trying to get as much credit as Curry, Klay, Dray and Kerr.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Except you back them against a guy with a serious major spinal injury

Michael Irvin?