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He’s a pos, no denying that one. Human rights is the big issue if you just want to talk sports. You are going to have difficulty explaining that one since you for some reason want to ignore the obvious.
List of countries no one should ever take money from or buy from because of 'human rights':

China, Russia, India, Israel, the entire Middle East

Have you checked to see how many items in your house are made in China by slave labor? Perhaps the device you are typing on?
 

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List of countries no one should ever take money from or buy from because of 'human rights':

China, Russia, India, Israel, the entire Middle East

Have you checked to see how many items in your house are made in China by slave labor? Perhaps the device you are typing on?
I try to buy American, not possible on some things obviously. You are being damn weird on this one. Have fun with it.
 

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I try to buy American, not possible on some things obviously. You are being damn weird on this one. Have fun with it.
LOL yeah I'm the weird one because I don't think China is some cartoon villain bent on enslaving the human race. It's just a foreign country that makes shit we all buy. Their government is far from a liberal democracy, but I don't go to the fainting couch about doing business with countries that aren't exactly aligned with the US.

By the way every team in the NBA including the Thunder gets money from China. Grow up.
 

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LOL yeah I'm the weird one because I don't think China is some cartoon villain bent on enslaving the human race. It's just a foreign country that makes shit we all buy. Their government is far from a liberal democracy, but I don't go to the fainting couch about doing business with countries that aren't exactly aligned with the US.

By the way every team in the NBA including the Thunder gets money from China. Grow up.
Oh I know, the NBA in particular has a horrible record with China.
 

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Oh I know, the NBA in particular has a horrible record with China.
Sometimes I can barely look at myself in the mirror after watching an NBA game
 

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I'm not excusing China but I mostly don't understand why we act like the NBA is unique in this relationship.

In the same breath people will champion a sport entirely bought and owned by SA in LIV. I have way more issue with that.
 

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I'm not excusing China but I mostly don't understand why we act like the NBA is unique in this relationship.

In the same breath people will champion a sport entirely bought and owned by SA in LIV. I have way more issue with that.
That's more of a direct thing though. China isn't literally paying the salaries of the NBA directly. But even then, it's just business. And we all do business with China and the Saudis every day. It's weird moral grandstanding to attack a player or league for doing the same thing.
 

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How do you bear the guilt?
Easy I don’t go out if my way to act like everything is just fine. It most certainly is not. This is so much bigger than this silly sports argument.
 

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Easy I don’t go out if my way to act like everything is just fine. It most certainly is not. This is so much bigger than this silly sports argument.
I know, it's disgusting that the NBA is tainted by Chinese money. I feel guilty every time I watch, I'm complicit in the evil. It's definitely NOT fine.
 

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That's more of a direct thing though. China isn't literally paying the salaries of the NBA directly. But even then, it's just business. And we all do business with China and the Saudis every day. It's weird moral grandstanding to attack a player or league for doing the same thing.

It may just be business but the same slush fund back terrorism so I'm not a big fan of the two entities meeting.

I'd assume because of population China is our biggest importer of entertainment. Obviously Europe collectively is huge but country to country less so
 

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It may just be business but the same slush fund back terrorism so I'm not a big fan of the two entities meeting.

I'd assume because of population China is our biggest importer of entertainment. Obviously Europe collectively is huge but country to country less so
Yep, China is both a huge market and obviously a huge supplier of things we need.

I somehow manage to get through the day not having a moral crisis about it, or others doing the same.
 

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I know, it's disgusting that the NBA is tainted by Chinese money. I feel guilty every time I watch, I'm complicit in the evil. It's definitely NOT fine.
I wouldnt lose any sleep over it, China has huge deflation issues at the moment. They will have to correct those before they come get you.
 

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I wouldnt lose any sleep over it, China has huge deflation issues at the moment. They will have to correct those before they come get you.
Wait so we're morally in the clear because China's economy is having a rough patch? THAT'S a relief. I guess we owe Jokic an apology.
 

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Wait so we're morally in the clear because China's economy is having a rough patch? THAT'S a relief. I guess we owe Jokic an apology.
Everyone is free to think like they want and say what they want. We don’t live in China.
 

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Everyone is free to think like they want and say what they want. We don’t live in China.
But we give them our money every day. We're all complicit in their evil.
 
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