The 2023-2024 NBA Season

[The Q]

Yeah he's special

Yeah this may be my last year rather than second to last now

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Yeah this may be my last year rather than second to last now

what's your deal with the Spurs lol

 

[fightinfunbags]

That is one of the stupider things an nba player has ever said.

I am a system is a great fucking quote…if he can go and back it up.

 

[DJ]

A little perspective

Looking for the perfect pass....LOL.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Looking for the perfect pass....LOL.

I mean the dude gets dimes. It's just that his usage is so high (because he holds the ball so long) it's not a flowing 10 dimes lol

 

[DJ]

I mean the dude gets dimes. It's just that his usage is so high (because he holds the ball so long) it's not a flowing 10 dimes lol

I know....

 

[trojanfan12]

I mean the dude gets dimes. It's just that his usage is so high (because he holds the ball so long) it's not a flowing 10 dimes lol

Yeah, that's the issue. He gets assists, but they tend to be fairly empty. It's like Westbrooks triple double seasons...looks great on paper, but how much winning did it actually lead to? Especially in the playoffs.

 

[thunderc]

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I am a system is a great fucking quote…if he can go and back it up.

Lmao the only system he has been is one that destroys organizations

 

[The Q]

Yeah, that's the issue. He gets assists, but they tend to be fairly empty. It's like Westbrooks triple double seasons...looks great on paper, but how much winning did it actually lead to? Especially in the playoffs.

I mean he’s made the conference finals a few times

How does this convo look if his second best player doesn’t get hurt?

He’s not getting bounced in round 1 all the time

I don’t love the fit but as long as the big 3 can move the ball a bit more and just not playing your turn my turn this offense can be devastating

 

[fightinfunbags]

I mean the dude gets dimes. It's just that his usage is so high (because he holds the ball so long) it's not a flowing 10 dimes lol

His system is based upon him being the most threatening scorer in the league and making reads on how the defense reacts to that. The problem is that he’s no longer that guy.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

His system is based upon him being the most threatening scorer in the league and making reads on how the defense reacts to that. The problem is that he’s no longer that guy.

his on off in the playoffs versus the regular season last year speaks to effort

Now that said...he's getting to the end for sure. There is only one Lebron.

 

[bksballer89]

Yeah this may be my last year rather than second to last now

We will miss you

 

[DJ]

I mean he’s made the conference finals a few times

How does this convo look if his second best player doesn’t get hurt?

He’s not getting bounced in round 1 all the time

I don’t love the fit but as long as the big 3 can move the ball a bit more and just not playing your turn my turn this offense can be devastating

Starting to think that also. Health is the main issue....

They can field a lineup of Harden, RW, Leonard, PG and fill in blank for the C...that is a pretty scary lineup.

 

[DJ]

his on off in the playoffs versus the regular season last year speaks to effort

Now that said...he's getting to the end for sure. There is only one Lebron.

That is true and he is still playing at a high level.

 

[Sportsguy9695]

He'll fit right in with the Knicks. They don't worry about such things lol.

As big of a Knicks fan I am your right they don’t need to worry about the playoffs

 

[Shanemansj13]

It’s far from over

Wemby seems to already be the #1 option and it is likely to expand. Chet is not. That is the biggest hurdle for Chet to overcome.

Not shocked but a bit surprised only a few games in Wemby is a 1a option.

 

[trojanfan12]

I mean he’s made the conference finals a few times

How does this convo look if his second best player doesn’t get hurt?

He’s not getting bounced in round 1 all the time

I don’t love the fit but as long as the big 3 can move the ball a bit more and just not playing your turn my turn this offense can be devastating

Have I missed something?

I remember him making the finals once with OKC before he became a "system" and I remember him making the WCF, I think twice.

If he can move the ball earlier in the offense like he did the 1st half of the season with the Sixers, it could work.

But if he does his usual dribble for 19 seconds before trying to draw a foul, shoot a step back 3, or pass like he did in the 2nd half of last season...it's not going to work.

One of the Clippers current weaknesses is their offense tends to stagnate at times. It's what got the Lakers back into the game the other night and part of why the Lakers won.

The Harden from the first half of last season could help that, the Harden from most of the rest of his career exacerbates the problem.

 

[The Q]

We will miss you

No need to lie to my face…..

 

[msgkings322]

I remember watching him with the Suns at their old "Madhouse on McDowell" arena when I was a kid. Dude was a bucket.

One of the more underrated, underappreciated star level players in league history.

Just heard now that the Nuggets have won a title, the Suns are the oldest/longest running franchise to never have won a title

If/when the Warriors are out I'd probably root for them to win a title

 

[CitySushi]

Harden's problem is a catch-22 from all angles. He wants to win, I do believe that. But he wants to win being the best player on his team, which is not going to happen. Harden doesn't want to be just a cog. He won't buy into the system because it requires him to give up some of his own autonomy during the games which he's stated is very important to him. But he can't be the system either because he's not the guy you can win a championship with being your best player.

So he's stuck in limbo.

He also wants to get paid. But the flip side of that is he's forced his way out of every team he's ever played on. OKC (no blame there, OKC should have paid him), Rockets, Nets, 76ers. How can you trust that he won't do the same to you? Can you really afford to max him out for a long term contract? Nope. It blows up the entire team and the organization will have to pivot.