The 2023-2024 NBA Season

[bksballer89]

Offense was not the problem. Having your big 3 all be the same player basically (scorers who don't play D) and getting paid so much you have nothing else around them is the problem.. Running it back isn't going to change anything.

Watch their offensive sets and get back to me. There been several reports that kd did not like the way they used him. Vogel never been an offensive coach. There is more to offense than scoring points.

 

[msgkings322]

Watch their offensive sets and get back to me. There been several reports that kd did not like the way they used him. Vogel never been an offensive coach. There is more to offense than scoring points.

And there is more to being a contender than offense. And far more to being a contender than what Phoenix can deliver with this set up. The experiment failed and they have no way to make it better without starting over.

Do you honestly think whatever they get back for KD + a new offensive philosophy makes them one? Because that's all they can do they have no picks or cap space and Beal is untradeable.

 

[thunderc]

And there is more to being a contender than offense. And far more to being a contender than what Phoenix can deliver with this set up. The experiment failed and they have no way to make it better without starting over.

Do you honestly think whatever they get back for KD + a new offensive philosophy makes them one? Because that's all they can do they have no picks or cap space and Beal is untradeable.

Well you are certainly correct that Beal is untradeable.

 

[msgkings322]

Well you are certainly correct that Beal is untradeable.

It is also correct that they have no picks or cap space. They have nothing they can do to become contenders. Firing Vogel isn't going to make that happen.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Americans do stupid shit to their cars ALL THE TIME lol.

And it’s super GAAAAAAY.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Well you are certainly correct that Beal is untradeable.

Even if he didn’t have a full no trade clause, this would still be the case.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Watch their offensive sets and get back to me. There been several reports that kd did not like the way they used him. Vogel never been an offensive coach. There is more to offense than scoring points.

When will Kawhi be trade eligible.

It seems likely that Ballmer is going to pay George and Sloth.

But we will continue to be a first round out as long as Kawhi continues to not be able to play every postseason, which is probable.

 

[shopson67]

Darvin Ham wuz robbed

Did they get his car keys and pass to the Lakers facility?

 

[shopson67]

Why would the suns trade book? I think kd is the one you move

Book is homegrown and the youngest. I would keep him

Well, Beal is the one you move if at all possible lol.

 

[bksballer89]

Well, Beal is the one you move if at all possible lol.

Yeaa but that seems highly unlikely

 

[Wamu]

Melo was traded to NY.

He didn't sign with them.

Thanks for pointing that out. Forgot about that.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Did they get his car keys and pass to the Lakers facility?

Uii8u

 

[trojanfan12]

Offense was not the problem. Having your big 3 all be the same player basically (scorers who don't play D) and getting paid so much you have nothing else around them is the problem.. Running it back isn't going to change anything.

Yeah, at best, they figure out a way to do a better job of incorporating Beal.

Imo, 1 thing that would help would be to trade Beal for someone like KCP who will play some defense and has shown that he can hit shots when necessary without having a lot of plays run for him.

 

[thunderc]

Even if he didn’t have a full no trade clause, this would still be the case.

Well I had forgot he had a no trade clause lol. I can’t believe any team would ever give a no trade clause.

 

[thunderc]

When will Kawhi be trade eligible.

It seems likely that Ballmer is going to pay George and Sloth.

But we will continue to be a first round out as long as Kawhi continues to not be able to play every postseason, which is probable.

You really think Balmer is going to fall for contract year Harden?

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

You really think Balmer is going to fall for contract year Harden?

Yes.

 

[thunderc]

Yes.

Well I guess he has money to burn

 

[msgkings322]

Yeah, at best, they figure out a way to do a better job of incorporating Beal.

Imo, 1 thing that would help would be to trade Beal for someone like KCP who will play some defense and has shown that he can hit shots when necessary without having a lot of plays run for him.

I guess but no one is going to take his contract (and he has to approve it...not that he would say no to moving to the Nuggets LOL)

I just don't think they can fix things with their cap and lack of draft picks. And even then, swap Beal for KCP and another depth piece, is that a title team? Still no true leader/alpha, still not enough to come out of the West let alone win a title.

 

[thunderc]

I guess but no one is going to take his contract (and he has to approve it...not that he would say no to moving to the Nuggets LOL)

I just don't think they can fix things with their cap and lack of draft picks. And even then, swap Beal for KCP and another depth piece, is that a title team? Still no true leader/alpha, still not enough to come out of the West let alone win a title.

Yeah the Suns took a big swing and missed. It’s going to be ugly moving forward.

 

[msgkings322]

Well, Beal is the one you move if at all possible lol.

It's not