The 2023-2024 NBA Season

[shopson67]

Escaped...

New Lakers motto. Never win easy...

also, never guard a 3 point shooter

 

[wildturkey]

From a couple days ago but just seeing it now

 

[Tai Chi≈Surfing]

Quit staring at the man’s upper body

Now that's pretty funny coming from someone who's been obsessed with the physiques of Tatum & Brown all up & down....and don't try to deny it.

 

[DJ]

1-Edwards
2-Wemby
3-Zion
4-Banchero
5-Cunningham

 

[tlance]

View attachment 3587361-Edwards
2-Wemby
3-Zion
4-Banchero
5-Cunningham

How can you not put Wemby #1?

Easy call there.

 

[bksballer89]

How can you not put Wemby #1?

Easy call there.

I like Banchero over Zion as well

 

[bksballer89]

East race is crazy. 2 losses separates 3-6

 

[eaglesnut]

MVP: Joel Embiid​

Joel Embiid has played 1,157 minutes this season and scored 1,201 points. The second number is bigger than the first number. The second number should never be bigger than the first number. For his career, LeBron James has scored around .71 points per minute. Michael Jordan is a bit higher at 0.79, Embiid, this season, is at 1.038. Wilt Chamberlain averaged a shade below that in the 1961-62 season ... when he averaged 50 points per game. Before he suffered a tear to his meniscus, Embiid, who returned to action Tuesday night, was having quite possibly the greatest scoring season in NBA history. That alone is usually enough to win MVP, and it represents only a fraction of Embiid's case.


He is averaging a career-high six assists per game. Nikola Jokic may make that number look pedestrian, but it isn't. He and Domantas Sabonis are the only other full-time centers ever to do that for a full season. Embiid was in the midst of having arguably the best defensive season of his career as well before he went down. As of this writing, he ranks sixth in the NBA with a D-EPM of +3.3, and Philadelphia has allowed only 110.5 points per 100 possessions in his minutes. That figure would rank Philadelphia third in the league over the full season, and he did all of this under fairly trying circumstances. James Harden was on his roster on opening night. He's playing for a new coach in Nick Nurse on a roster that was at least partially built to be torn down this offseason in favor max cap space. That roster has gone 27-8 with him this season and 14-27 without him.

Embiid's per-minute MVP case is virtually unassailable. Perhaps you could take issue with the light schedule the 76ers played in December and January has he posted his historic numbers, but we're talking about what will ultimately be a 40-game sample or so. Those games didn't all come against the Wizards and Pistons even if a decent chunk of them did.

Embiid's injury was a shame for several reasons, but one of the bigger ones relates to all of the criticism he received for winning the award last season and following it up with yet another playoff disappointment. The voters may have gotten it wrong last season. They weren't going to this season. Embiid was the runaway deserving choice, playoff reputation be damned, and another trophy might've helped legitimize his otherwise stellar 2022-23 season. Whether or not he ever breaks through in the playoffs, Embiid is one of the great regular-season players of our time. He already has one trophy to prove that. Had he stayed healthy, it would have been two.

 

[tlance]

MVP: Joel Embiid​

Joel Embiid has played 1,157 minutes this season and scored 1,201 points. The second number is bigger than the first number. The second number should never be bigger than the first number. For his career, LeBron James has scored around .71 points per minute. Michael Jordan is a bit higher at 0.79, Embiid, this season, is at 1.038. Wilt Chamberlain averaged a shade below that in the 1961-62 season ... when he averaged 50 points per game. Before he suffered a tear to his meniscus, Embiid, who returned to action Tuesday night, was having quite possibly the greatest scoring season in NBA history. That alone is usually enough to win MVP, and it represents only a fraction of Embiid's case.


He is averaging a career-high six assists per game. Nikola Jokic may make that number look pedestrian, but it isn't. He and Domantas Sabonis are the only other full-time centers ever to do that for a full season. Embiid was in the midst of having arguably the best defensive season of his career as well before he went down. As of this writing, he ranks sixth in the NBA with a D-EPM of +3.3, and Philadelphia has allowed only 110.5 points per 100 possessions in his minutes. That figure would rank Philadelphia third in the league over the full season, and he did all of this under fairly trying circumstances. James Harden was on his roster on opening night. He's playing for a new coach in Nick Nurse on a roster that was at least partially built to be torn down this offseason in favor max cap space. That roster has gone 27-8 with him this season and 14-27 without him.

Embiid's per-minute MVP case is virtually unassailable. Perhaps you could take issue with the light schedule the 76ers played in December and January has he posted his historic numbers, but we're talking about what will ultimately be a 40-game sample or so. Those games didn't all come against the Wizards and Pistons even if a decent chunk of them did.

Embiid's injury was a shame for several reasons, but one of the bigger ones relates to all of the criticism he received for winning the award last season and following it up with yet another playoff disappointment. The voters may have gotten it wrong last season. They weren't going to this season. Embiid was the runaway deserving choice, playoff reputation be damned, and another trophy might've helped legitimize his otherwise stellar 2022-23 season. Whether or not he ever breaks through in the playoffs, Embiid is one of the great regular-season players of our time. He already has one trophy to prove that. Had he stayed healthy, it would have been two.

Stop it.

Joel Embiid games played by season:

0
0
31
63
64
51
51
68
66
35

His stats are awesome.

But he can’t be considered an “all time great” regular season player when he has appeared in less than 55% of his team’s games for the course of his career.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Stop it.

Joel Embiid games played by season:

0
0
31
63
64
51
51
68
66
35

His stats are awesome.

But he can’t be considered an “all time great” regular season player when he has appeared in less than 55% of his team’s games for the course of his career.

You know a guy has an agenda when two lost years where he didn’t even get on to the court are used to take the averages his way.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Stop it.

Joel Embiid games played by season:

0
0
31
63
64
51
51
68
66
35

His stats are awesome.

But he can’t be considered an “all time great” regular season player when he has appeared in less than 55% of his team’s games for the course of his career.

We don't measure greatness in regular season accomplishments anyway for the most part.

 

[eaglesnut]

Stop it.

Joel Embiid games played by season:

0
0
31
63
64
51
51
68
66
35

His stats are awesome.

But he can’t be considered an “all time great” regular season player when he has appeared in less than 55% of his team’s games for the course of his career.

Read it again...
Here it is again because you're not smart enough to find it.

LeBron James has scored around .71 points per minute.
Michael Jordan is a bit higher at 0.79,
Embiid, this season, is at 1.038.
Wilt Chamberlain averaged a shade below that in the 1961-62 season ... when he averaged 50 points per game.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Read it again...
Here it is again because you're not smart enough to find it.

LeBron James has scored around .71 points per minute.
Michael Jordan is a bit higher at 0.79,
Embiid, this season, is at 1.038.
Wilt Chamberlain averaged a shade below that in the 1961-62 season ... when he averaged 50 points per game.

No one is doubting he's having an amazing season when he's on the court.

He's not on it enough.

He can dispel a lot of this criticism with a great playoffs.

 

[fightinfunbags]

No one is doubting he's having an amazing season when he's on the court.

He's not on it enough.

He can dispel a lot of this criticism with a great playoffs.

Nah, the haters will still be there even with a great playoff. That’s just sports today.

 

[shopson67]

You know a guy has an agenda when two lost years where he didn’t even get on to the court are used to take the averages his way.

Was he getting paid those 2 years? They count of course.

 

[bksballer89]

 

[shopson67]

Read it again...
Here it is again because you're not smart enough to find it.

LeBron James has scored around .71 points per minute.
Michael Jordan is a bit higher at 0.79,
Embiid, this season, is at 1.038.
Wilt Chamberlain averaged a shade below that in the 1961-62 season ... when he averaged 50 points per game.

Congrats. His team would be 11th in the West. Why? He's missed half of the season.

Those other guys play far more than half a season.

 

[shopson67]

It's beyond time to dump the conferences, play all divisions equally other than your own, and mix the playoff ladders.

Lakers would be in 6th in the East.

 

[thunderc]

It's beyond time to dump the conferences, play all divisions equally other than your own, and mix the playoff ladders.

Lakers would be in 6th in the East.

Na, they would still find a way into the play in tournament. They just like tournaments.

 

[tlance]

Read it again...
Here it is again because you're not smart enough to find it.

LeBron James has scored around .71 points per minute.
Michael Jordan is a bit higher at 0.79,
Embiid, this season, is at 1.038.
Wilt Chamberlain averaged a shade below that in the 1961-62 season ... when he averaged 50 points per game.

That would be amazing.

Too bad he played less than half the season.