The 2016 Cap and AP

[es4m11]

Damnit, Man! How often are you going to say the same shit over and over and over and over and over again? You just don't seem to get it, more paragraphs aren't changing anyone's mind.

More football clueless? Clearly Minnesota is the one holding the cards here. They seem to think they have a half way decent football team up there, and they seem to think Bridgewater is their guy. They have no reason to let AP go. And if AP has any dream of living up to his bold prediction of catching Emmitt, he will damn sure have to play this year. No matter where it is. And him playing in Minnesota makes that team better, whether he is happy or not. They aren't going to give him away for peanuts, they would rather win with him.

You're fucking brain dead and clueless, Greg.

 

[PDay8810]

funny...me moving up and all on the sheep ladder. Here's another for you long time cry babies...

Always good on a message board to pronounce one's self as the judge of all worthy opinions and call out all others that differ.

Shit dude, least you got Nets. Walk Tall and be happy another shares this dream.

Me? I'm still calling it a pipedream?

Sheep?.....LAUGH MY ASS OFF AT YOU

ONWARD!!

 

[PDay8810]

Agenda's based on butt hurt feelings from yesteryear remains the worst of all. Makes a guy look smaller than before

and frankly....I still wear this as a badge of honor and know someone's learned a little football from my efforts.

baby steps none the less

 

[NetsGotBanned21]

Never understood why people discredit and belittle someone because they don't agree with them, leave Greg alone, let him hold to his beliefs it is after all his right, and no one should persecute him for it.

I will say this, my post is about AP and the 2016 cap as titled, meaning that getting AP has nothing to do with the cap at all, that it doesn't hurt the present nor future cap to get him. Has nothing to do with do I want him or not.

Fact is would I take AP under the right conditions yes. First he is proven to be better than not only any RB in this draft, but also in the NFL, this is a FACT! Another fact is that with a better D and a top RB such as an AP or Murray, etc this team is a Super Bowl contender for next season. Fact is no rookie is a given or proven talent, no matter what they did in college, i.e. Kijana Carter, Joey Harrington, Reggie Bush, Ryan Leaf, etc so if the proper conditions came up for me to give a second in this years draft for a player that most GMs in the NFL not board posters think has 2-3 more years of dominant football left in him, I will gladly take it once again under the right conditions which is a contract that allows me the ability to void free after 3 seasons. Another point is, if I can get a talent such as AP which is a guaranteed starter for next season for a 2nd this year, and then I can use my 1st on a top D player, maybe pass rush or secondary as a starter, why wouldn't I? Odds are that would give me two impact starters.

As I mentioned I am pro AP under the right terms. To each their own, so many experts on this board, but I wonder what these experts will say IF AP actually becomes a Cowboy. I never said this team needs to do this or will do it, but I said if under the right conditions I believe this would be the best deal for this team in the present.

Anyways to each their own, I've learned over the years not to converse certain things with people as some are set in their ways, bitter for no reason, and feel as if they are better than others, as well as their opinion really holds more weight than another's. Oh well about a month and all this AP talk should be over anyways. Ma'asalama to all

 

[es4m11]

Never understood why people discredit and belittle someone because they don't agree with them, leave Greg alone, let him hold to his beliefs it is after all his right, and no one should persecute him for it.

Clearly you haven't been reading Greg's posts. He brings this on himself. It has gotten a little viscous of late, but it is most definitely self inflicted, and well deserved.

 

[PDay8810]

Never understood why people discredit and belittle someone because they don't agree with them, leave Greg alone, let him hold to his beliefs it is after all his right, and no one should persecute him for

must be selective reading cause I didn't say shit to deserve his attack.
Perhaps you missed that part

 

[GNG]

The Cowboys don't need AP.

 

[es4m11]

AP will play his season in Minnesota

 

[Eiknarflin]

Nets, come on man. You can't be serious. "Greg," aka WYFRY, brought up the AP thing weeks ago. When a few held to different opinions, he started getting all bent out of shape and started throwing out the insults. To make matters worse, he kept repeating his same argument over and over, as though if he said it often enough, everyone else would just say, "Oh, Greg, I see your point and we should go after AP."

Greg isn't being belittled because he has an opinion. He's being belittled because he can't take anyone not agreeing with his opinion. He has delusions of "chat board" grandeur. Always has, always will.

 

[jarntt]

Nets. You know I like you but you are WAY off base with this. The guy has been asshole #1 since his 3rd post under his new name. He has gotten into arguments with everyone here, including fans from other teams that just come by for a post or two. He is the one slinging insults at every turn and acting as if any opinion that isn't exactly in agreement with his is to be belittled and others are just responding in kind. Why is it EVERYONE is having issues with him? That's usually the first clue.

Onto AP. Everyone here wants AP if it is under the right terms. I think we just differ on what those terms may be and what he would accept as salary and what he has left in the tank. IMO any terms that are "likely" are not terms I'm interested in. We have made too much progress to go back down that route IMO. There is much that I disagree with in your OP, but it's your opinion and that's fine. What I will disagree with is where you stated things in your last post as "facts". You've always liked your superstars and your splash skill position guys and that's fine, but I don't agree that it is a FACt that AP is still the best back in the NFL, that this team is a SB contender with him or that most GMs think he has 2 or 3 years of dominant Football left in him.

As to how we'd act if he comes here. I don't know about everyone else but I'd root as hard for him as I would Murray if he was still here. The team is first and foremost to me and If I disagree with a draft pick or a free agent it's in the rear view mirror to me after its official. I dont want to be "right" I want the team to be be right. That doesn't mean I wouldn't think he was an entitled, arrogant, Dick, but I can't change that either...

 

[Manster7588]

Never understood why people discredit and belittle someone because they don't agree with them, leave Greg alone, let him hold to his beliefs it is after all his right, and no one should persecute him for it.

I will say this, my post is about AP and the 2016 cap as titled, meaning that getting AP has nothing to do with the cap at all, that it doesn't hurt the present nor future cap to get him. Has nothing to do with do I want him or not.

Fact is would I take AP under the right conditions yes. First he is proven to be better than not only any RB in this draft, but also in the NFL, this is a FACT! Another fact is that with a better D and a top RB such as an AP or Murray, etc this team is a Super Bowl contender for next season. Fact is no rookie is a given or proven talent, no matter what they did in college, i.e. Kijana Carter, Joey Harrington, Reggie Bush, Ryan Leaf, etc so if the proper conditions came up for me to give a second in this years draft for a player that most GMs in the NFL not board posters think has 2-3 more years of dominant football left in him, I will gladly take it once again under the right conditions which is a contract that allows me the ability to void free after 3 seasons. Another point is, if I can get a talent such as AP which is a guaranteed starter for next season for a 2nd this year, and then I can use my 1st on a top D player, maybe pass rush or secondary as a starter, why wouldn't I? Odds are that would give me two impact starters.

As I mentioned I am pro AP under the right terms. To each their own, so many experts on this board, but I wonder what these experts will say IF AP actually becomes a Cowboy. I never said this team needs to do this or will do it, but I said if under the right conditions I believe this would be the best deal for this team in the present.

Anyways to each their own, I've learned over the years not to converse certain things with people as some are set in their ways, bitter for no reason, and feel as if they are better than others, as well as their opinion really holds more weight than another's. Oh well about a month and all this AP talk should be over anyways. Ma'asalama to all

FACT AP is on the wrong side of 30. FACT AP said he's not taking a pay cut. FACT every thing I read says Romo's restructure gives Dallas the money for to pay Hardy and McNeil if they max out their incentives.

FACT Minesotta has stated they are not trading AP. Yes this is most likely just talk but I'm sure it's to keep his trade value high. They aren't trading him cheap.

You may disagree but I think drafting a couple of players who may be on the team 6 or 7 years from now is better than trading that chance for a RB who I doubt has 3years left. AP is f'n old for a football player. He's extremly old for a RB.

Sorry but suggesting trading for him the paying his contract is flat out DUMB. If AP agreed to a pay cut before a trade is made and Minny takes a late pick fine I'm on board, but you contract and trade idea is not too bright.

 

[NetsGotBanned21]

Sorry Jar, Eik, and ES, but I haven't really been on the board much to see his post...only saw them here. I suppose I should keep up and be aware of what is truly going on before I make such responses, I am sorry for that.

PDay you are right you didn't deserve any type of attack, fact is no matter what, no one deserves any type of attack, I just wish we all could get along sometimes lol.

Jar, I respect what you are saying, but I wake up about 5am each morning and watch NFL Network and they report that numerous GM's feel as if AP will still be dominant 2-3 more seasons, I'd hold that as a strong opinion or fair fact. As far as AP being #1 in NFL it is my opinion but every year for the last 4 seasons or so that he has played AP has been by far the best RB in the NFL, not only that but in 12 and 13 you could have argued best player in NFL in 12 I believe he won MVP for his 2,083 yards and 23 TDs that year. I do think that AP is a better back than Murray, I also believe that DMac can be our 3rd down back to take the place of Randle and Dunbar, as DMac is a beast receiving out of the backfield, and therefore I don't think AP gets over 350 carries during regular season but if he averages just 4 per carry which is well below his 5 per carry career avg he would get about 1,400 next season, but if he can just maintain average at 5 per on 350 carries then he'd get 1,750 next season. The thing you get with AP is automatic fear and respect from other teams, you can't tell me that other players, coaches, and teams don't still fear AP or know he is option number one to stop, well problem is you have a guy named Dez, and a QB named Tony, and a TE named Wit, these are major problems.

I know Murray was very good last year, but even with him being an Eagle I don't fear him, but AP I'd be afraid of him busting out and killing us, and I have only had that fear for a few players over the years. The last player I have had this much respect for was Moss. You just knew any given Sunday that guy was going to kill you, and that is what you get with AP, even if he isn't the 2012 version of himself.

 

[NetsGotBanned21]

FACT AP is on the wrong side of 30. FACT AP said he's not taking a pay cut. FACT every thing I read says Romo's restructure gives Dallas the money for to pay Hardy and McNeil if they max out their incentives.

FACT Minesotta has stated they are not trading AP. Yes this is most likely just talk but I'm sure it's to keep his trade value high. They aren't trading him cheap.

You may disagree but I think drafting a couple of players who may be on the team 6 or 7 years from now is better than trading that chance for a RB who I doubt has 3years left. AP is f'n old for a football player. He's extremly old for a RB.

Sorry but suggesting trading for him the paying his contract is flat out DUMB. If AP agreed to a pay cut before a trade is made and Minny takes a late pick fine I'm on board, but you contract and trade idea is not too bright.

McClain not McNiel, and you are right it does give them money for that; but you can draft a corner in first round and cut Carr and there goes AP's money, FACT.

AP said he was not taking a pay cut which is a fact, but the fact around that was he was not taking a pay cut to stay in Minny FACT!

If the Vikings are going to trade AP I said I would do it under the RIGHT conditions FACT, which is a 2nd at most in my book, which gives you the ability to draft a day 1 corner, get AP, and draft more D help in the 3rd.

So since giving AP that contract isn't bright tell me which NFL RB contracts, currently are bright, because the contract I just suggested is on par with Murray and Shady, both of whom are lesser backs than AP, FACT

 

[jarntt]

Sorry Jar, Eik, and ES, but I haven't really been on the board much to see his post...only saw them here. I suppose I should keep up and be aware of what is truly going on before I make such responses, I am sorry for that.

PDay you are right you didn't deserve any type of attack, fact is no matter what, no one deserves any type of attack, I just wish we all could get along sometimes lol.

Jar, I respect what you are saying, but I wake up about 5am each morning and watch NFL Network and they report that numerous GM's feel as if AP will still be dominant 2-3 more seasons, I'd hold that as a strong opinion or fair fact. As far as AP being #1 in NFL it is my opinion but every year for the last 4 seasons or so that he has played AP has been by far the best RB in the NFL, not only that but in 12 and 13 you could have argued best player in NFL in 12 I believe he won MVP for his 2,083 yards and 23 TDs that year. I do think that AP is a better back than Murray, I also believe that DMac can be our 3rd down back to take the place of Randle and Dunbar, as DMac is a beast receiving out of the backfield, and therefore I don't think AP gets over 350 carries during regular season but if he averages just 4 per carry which is well below his 5 per carry career avg he would get about 1,400 next season, but if he can just maintain average at 5 per on 350 carries then he'd get 1,750 next season. The thing you get with AP is automatic fear and respect from other teams, you can't tell me that other players, coaches, and teams don't still fear AP or know he is option number one to stop, well problem is you have a guy named Dez, and a QB named Tony, and a TE named Wit, these are major problems.

I know Murray was very good last year, but even with him being an Eagle I don't fear him, but AP I'd be afraid of him busting out and killing us, and I have only had that fear for a few players over the years. The last player I have had this much respect for was Moss. You just knew any given Sunday that guy was going to kill you, and that is what you get with AP, even if he isn't the 2012 version of himself.

While I disagree with a lot of that...again it's your opinion, so I'll just stick to again what I don't think is really defendable. You think he was arguably the best player in the NFL in 2013???

 

[Manster7588]

McClain not McNiel, and you are right it does give them money for that; but you can draft a corner in first round and cut Carr and there goes AP's money, FACT.

AP said he was not taking a pay cut which is a fact, but the fact around that was he was not taking a pay cut to stay in Minny FACT!

If the Vikings are going to trade AP I said I would do it under the RIGHT conditions FACT, which is a 2nd at most in my book, which gives you the ability to draft a day 1 corner, get AP, and draft more D help in the 3rd.

So since giving AP that contract isn't bright tell me which NFL RB contracts, currently are bright, because the contract I just suggested is on par with Murray and Shady, both of whom are lesser backs than AP, FACT

We can draft a RB not over 30 and AP simply said he wasn't taking a paycut, he never said staying or leaving Minny had anything to do with it.

I believe Minny will trade him for the right offer, believe they want at least a 1st maybe an additional pick to boot. That to rich for an old player. Now if AP were willing to take a pay cut and he really wanted out of Minny wouldn't the smart thing be to say I'm not cutting my current contract but if I had to do so to facilitate a trade I'd be open to negotiations?

His hard no pay cut stance is the block wall that back Arizona up. They were willing to talk trade until he made his feelings known.

Let Minny cut AP then let's talk about him in Dallas, but trading the future for a short term rental is not wise.

Also a 2nd is still too much to trade for him.

 

[Greg]

must be selective reading cause I didn't say shit to deserve his attack.
Perhaps you missed that part

Not this time, but you always attack me and my posts here when unprovoked. You and the rest of your cronies here...now you want to look for sympathy?? Pathetic.

You can fool Nets here with that weak BS logic because he rarely posts here and doesn't live on this board like you and the rest of these hacks with no lives that post here daily, but you'll never fool me. I know what you are snake.

 

[fastforward]

@NetsGotBanned21, i'm glad you're reconsidered. The board would have been weaker without you and now I can discard the long post i've been rewriting for 40 minutes.

 

[jarntt]

Yeah, let's just clear $13Mil in cap space NOW by auto-triggering Romo's contract for no fucking reason at all??


Football clueless??...you embody the meaning here dude. Just an miserable old man with old ideas....nothing more. Where's your girlfriend here jarntt?

Oh wait...

But others are doing the insulting, right? Your just a sad, angry, mentally ill, bull shitter with no life that will never be taken seriously. I do feel sorry for you, but since you bring it on yourself I get passed that...

 

[PDay8810]

Not this time, but you always attack me and my posts here when unprovoked. You and the rest of your cronies here...now you want to look for sympathy?? Pathetic.

You can fool Nets here with that weak BS logic because he rarely posts here and doesn't live on this board like you and the rest of these hacks with no lives that post here daily, but you'll never fool me. I know what you are snake.

 

[cowboycolors]

Is this like the time when you bet that "Red Ball" Garrett wouldn't last as their head coach either??....lmao

Hmmm yet another clue as to who you are Greg. Wfrye

Just come out from behind your veil of all knowing football knowledge omnipotence and and enlighten us poor ole sheep with the vastness and depth of your football greatness. For we can not think for ourselves and have an opinion on the Dallas Cowboys without Wfrye the High Priest of AP to Dallas lighting the way.

Keep posting the same crap over and over Wfrye you have not changed from the days at Disney only back then it was Mcfadden