That Hurricane Thread - The Sandy Vagina Chronicles: Much Ado About Nothing?

[Forty_Sixand2]

La Guardia

That can't be real, is it?

Insane!

 

[IPostedWhat]

Hey, I made the news!

 

[IPostedWhat]

 

[mattola]

 

[mattola]

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

If we have learned anything about New Yorkers, the ain't gonna flee shit. That is one tough ass city. They are going to roll up their sleeves and get shit done.

 

[mattola]

If we have learned anything about New Yorkers, the ain't gonna flee shit. That is one tough ass city. They are going to roll up their sleeves and get shit done.

no kidding.

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

It will be interesting to see how New York handles this compared to New Orleans. I am impressed with Bloomberg, Cuomo and Christie from the top, but it comes down to the citizens and I think that we will be pleasantly surprised.

 

[mattola]

It will be interesting to see how New York handles this compared to New Orleans. I am impressed with Bloomberg, Cuomo and Christie from the top, but it comes down to the citizens and I think that we will be pleasantly surprised.

would be worthy of a documentary.

 

[IPostedWhat]

Perhaps more money will be awarded for further research into polymer fiber powder?

If you can neutralize a storm before it even hits the coast, why not try?

 

[elocomotive]

It will be interesting to see how New York handles this compared to New Orleans. I am impressed with Bloomberg, Cuomo and Christie from the top, but it comes down to the citizens and I think that we will be pleasantly surprised.

Having a shitload more money will help. And I assume the federal gov't is going to help as well, and probably won't wait several days to do so like during Katrina. I don't think you can even compare the two. I'm sure there are parts of NY that are flooded and bad. But there are plenty of areas that are just fine. New Orleans was devastated. Katrina killed more than 4,000 people in a metro area. Entire neighborhoods were not only flooded but completely wiped out. Sandy didn't even kill 100 on the whole coast.

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

Having a shitload more money will help. And I assume the federal gov't is going to help as well, and probably won't wait several days to do so like during Katrina. I don't think you can even compare the two. I'm sure there are parts of NY that are flooded and bad. But there are plenty of areas that are just fine. New Orleans was devastated. Katrina killed more than 4,000 people in a metro area. Entire neighborhoods were not only flooded but completely wiped out. Sandy didn't even kill 100 on the whole coast.

The Fed's hands were tied in Katrina. Cuomo and Christie did the right thing here which is why the resources were in place. The Fed cannot do anything until it is requested on the local level. I work in disaster response. Hell, I taught it on some level. There was some valid reason for criticism to the federal response to Katrina, but it is more on the way FEMA was organized than the timing of the response. Bush did a great interview about it on Oprah after he left office and even she admitted that she had no idea how it worked and apologized for blaming him and the Feds for most of it.

All that aside, disaster response needs to be streamlined. The locals have all of the power and knowledge, but the feds have all of the resources. Cuomo and Christie worked with the president in this case to prepare properly and all of them did wonderfully (Bloomberg as well). Nagin and Blanco on the other hand......well......yeah.....

 

[forty_three]

That reminds me:
The 12 Dumbest Ways New Yorkers Prepared For The Last Hurricane

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

People should really watch his interview with Oprah about his book. I have shown it to a ton of people who hated him and didn't understand how disaster response works and it completely changes the way people see the situation. Until you find out how the process works, it is ignorant to criticize it.

Another tactical issue was getting ships (which carry the most supplies) into NO without putting them in harms way first. They had to enter to gulf to get there and they couldn't until after it cleared.

 

[IPostedWhat]

Until you find out how the process works, it is ignorant to criticize it.

But isn't that the American way?

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

But isn't that the American way?

Yeah, but I think that is important for people to try and learn it. I am not trying to be a dick here, just spread some knowledge.

 

[SLY]

Dick.

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

not to go completely off topic, but the organization of FEMA and DHS is way too cumbersome. It is in charge of both prevention of intentional attacks and response. That is way too much and too divided for one Department. FEMA should be separate or under HHS and focus solely on being prepared to respond as quickly and as efficiently as possible. They need to work with locals and companies that provide goods (Drug companies, hospitals, lumber providers etc...)

 

[forty_three]

not to go completely off topic, but the organization of FEMA and DHS is way too cumbersome. It is in charge of both prevention of intentional attacks and response. That is way too much and too divided for one Department. FEMA should be separate or under HHS and focus solely on being prepared to respond as quickly and as efficiently as possible. They need to work with locals and companies that provide goods (Drug companies, hospitals, lumber providers etc...)

Say what now? Never seen those two words in the same sentence before.

Seriously, though. The mission of DHS is a good one, but they really need to get their crap together and separate the protection of physical assets and cyber assets. I can't count the number of times I've run up against one of their folks who couldn't solve a computer problem with two hands a flashlight. Really slows down an investigation when you have to explain what networks are.

All good guys, pretty dedicated, but c'mon, send me some geeks once in a while.

/rant

 

[DevilishWon]

This guy deserves to live in denton texas