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you arent winning if you keep drafting 1st rounders just to turn them into 2nd rounders . if you want to trade payne then fine , get a 1st for him

That wasn't my statement, I'd love to trade Payne for a 1st or in a package deal for an elite player, preferably a quarterback. But in the case of Payne, he hasn't lived up to his billing IMO. I'd take the hit and move him, I never said I would routinely move 1st round picks for 2nd rounders.
 

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Payne is absolutely worth a 1st he is still in his prime

How many times do you get what a player is actually worth? How many times do GMs agree on what a player is worth? How many times do we scratch our heads and say "HOW DID THEY GET HIM FOR A 4TH, 5TH OR EVEN 7TH?
How many times do we say a organization got fleeced for picks or a player?
 

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That wasn't my statement, I'd love to trade Payne for a 1st or in a package deal for an elite player, preferably a quarterback. But in the case of Payne, he hasn't lived up to his billing IMO. I'd take the hit and move him, I never said I would routinely move 1st round picks for 2nd rounders.
i would say that you are wrong . he is a very highly graded DT in terms of run stopping and pass rushing
 

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Here is what our DTs look like . You can see what is said about Payne and Settle ( about a good mlb )
 

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Here are the CBS
 

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i would say that you are wrong . he is a very highly graded DT in terms of run stopping and pass rushing

Hey Dad, since he's been drafted how many pro bowl, all pro, playoff wins or superbowl appearances or even winning seasons for that matter....has he helped bring in? I know PFF says he's a beast but where's the evidence that says he's gotta get resigned and continue to wreak havoc?
 

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now you can cut a collins and get 9-13 mil but you lose talent at a weak position davis would have to take his role and next yr wes on the o/line will need to be resigned
I am not agreeing or disagreeing but having good players means making choices.

You want a splash at QB there goes your $4 million dollar QB, well actually he doesn't go ... you have to pay the splash guy.
 

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Hey Dad, since he's been drafted how many pro bowl, all pro, playoff wins or superbowl appearances or even winning seasons for that matter....has he helped bring in? I know PFF says he's a beast but where's the evidence that says he's gotta get resigned and continue to wreak havoc?
So now DTs are responsible for wins and super bowls ? Come on
 

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That wasn't my statement, I'd love to trade Payne for a 1st or in a package deal for an elite player, preferably a quarterback. But in the case of Payne, he hasn't lived up to his billing IMO. I'd take the hit and move him, I never said I would routinely move 1st round picks for 2nd rounders.
Move Payne in a heartbeat and plug Ioanidis right in. Settle can back up both spots.
 

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Move Payne in a heartbeat and plug Ioanidis right in. Settle can back up both spots.

yeah, Dude hasn't done JACK since he's been here, not gonna cry over him. Im glad he was drafted but ICE UP SON!
 

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So now DTs are responsible for wins and super bowls ? Come on

So by dodging are you admitting he's done jack, his entire career in DC?
Gimmie 5 teams that would drop a first on him and ill reconsider saying he's been thoroughly outplayed by Ironman and likely Settle "if he was a starter.
 

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So by dodging are you admitting he's done jack, his entire career in DC?
Gimmie 5 teams that would drop a first on him and ill reconsider saying he's been thoroughly outplayed by Ironman and likely Settle "if he was a starter.
Jax , Texans jets falcons Seahawks cards dolphins steelers , browns pats panthers colts titans giants
 
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