Stafford 92mg and 27m per season

[Yo Tee]

What was the best an Alex Smith offense has been? That is the definition of winning at the QB position. The QB only plays one side of the ball. With all that success, how good were those defenses? Or do you believe Tom Brady wins Super Bowls with the 32nd ranked defense? Should Trent Dilfer be in the HOF? Did he earn a huge contract?

Where is this success you speak of for Matt Ryan with regards to winning?

Luck and Ryan stand out because of statistics? Well, statistically, KC has been better than both.

KC stands out statistically, like I said, but that's about it. KC has yet to win a playoff game. KC has yet to put together back to back winning seasons. KC has done nothing but win 1 division title by going 9-7.

Tom Brady's first super bowl team's defense was ranked 24th overall in the league. It is possible to have a shit defense and win a Super Bowl.

Where is the success for Matt Ryan?? Matt Ryan went to the Super Bowl last year. He's went to 4 pro bowls, he was ROTY. He was the MVP last year. 3 division titles. That was a troll question right?

What are you bringing Trent Dilfer into this for? Who was even talking about him? You know it's more than just playoff success that makes a QB good right? If the best you can do it 9-7, sorry but that doesn't make you a good QB. You can throw for 5,000 yards all you want but if you aren't winning division titles, important games, playoff games or championships, you aren't worth the money that Carr, Stafford and Cousins are getting paid.

 

[Yo Tee]

Cassell sucks. That is my point. He sucks but has been far better than McCoy in his career. He has been on 4 teams because he competes for a starting gig, something McCoy will never get.

What exactly are you arguing for Garappolo? Are you arguing he is better than McCoy? I agree. Are you arguing he is better than McCarron. I disagree. I am not arguing McCarron is better either though. I am arguing we have no idea because both have been reasonably successful when given the opportunity.

I'm arguing McCarron isn't as good as some people say he is. Garoppolo is head over heels better than McCarron.

 

[Yo Tee]

I still stand by my original assertion. you put smith or palmer on the redskins for the last 2 years and they do no more than cousins did. they both need need a stout defense and good running game, neither of which kc had.

I'll agree with you about Palmer. Alex Smith, I feel, is a better QB than people give him credit for. Not saying he's a top 10 QB, but I think he gets a bad rap because he's not statistically the best.

 

[gkekoa]

I'll agree with you about Palmer. Alex Smith, I feel, is a better QB than people give him credit for. Not saying he's a top 10 QB, but I think he gets a bad rap because he's not statistically the best.

He was kicked to the curb for CK in SF. CK is now,out of the league.

Mahommes was just drafted in the first and will start sooner rather than later. Most would make that out to mean Smith isn't as good as you think.

 

[gkekoa]

I'm arguing McCarron isn't as good as some people say he is. Garoppolo is head over heels better than McCarron.

Nobody is saying McCarron is a sure thing. I think it is funny you believe Grap is head over heels better than anybody. It makes you sound like a homer.

 

[Yo Tee]

Nobody is saying McCarron is a sure thing. I think it is funny you believe Grap is head over heels better than anybody. It makes you sound like a homer.

Garappolo was thrown to the wolves last year and didn't show any signs of not being as good as everyone thinks he is.

 

[Yo Tee]

He was kicked to the curb for CK in SF. CK is now,out of the league.

Mahommes was just drafted in the first and will start sooner rather than later. Most would make that out to mean Smith isn't as good as you think.

That's probably true. Unless you are in the KC front office, we'll never know. Maybe they plan on giving Mahomes the Rodgers treatment. Maybe they plan of having him sit a year behind Smith. Maybe Smith plans on testing the waters next year and opt out of hit contract with KC. Noone really knows. All I know is Alex Smith is a more successful QB than Stafford and Cousins and is definitely worth the $14 mil he's making this year

 

[skinsdad62]

KC has led the skins to a 9-7 record in 15 and 8-7-1 last season . by definition that is back to back winning seasons

 

[Sharkinva]

KC has led the skins to a 9-7 record in 15 and 8-7-1 last season . by definition that is back to back winning seasons

Apparently alot of people have repressed memory of just how bad our QB play was in 2013 and 2014.

 

[Yo Tee]

KC has led the skins to a 9-7 record in 15 and 8-7-1 last season . by definition that is back to back winning seasons

If you're cool with that then be my guest. I like my QBs to be able to win more than 9 games and playoff games and division titles and what not.

 

[skinsdad62]

If you're cool with that then be my guest. I like my QBs to be able to win more than 9 games and playoff games and division titles and what not.

its not about cool with , its about correcting the record . we are still building

 

[Yo Tee]

its not about cool with , its about correcting the record . we are still building

How long have you been building for and how long is too long?

 

[gkekoa]

KC stands out statistically, like I said, but that's about it. KC has yet to win a playoff game. KC has yet to put together back to back winning seasons. KC has done nothing but win 1 division title by going 9-7.

Tom Brady's first super bowl team's defense was ranked 24th overall in the league. It is possible to have a shit defense and win a Super Bowl.

Where is the success for Matt Ryan?? Matt Ryan went to the Super Bowl last year. He's went to 4 pro bowls, he was ROTY. He was the MVP last year. 3 division titles. That was a troll question right?

What are you bringing Trent Dilfer into this for? Who was even talking about him? You know it's more than just playoff success that makes a QB good right? If the best you can do it 9-7, sorry but that doesn't make you a good QB. You can throw for 5,000 yards all you want but if you aren't winning division titles, important games, playoff games or championships, you aren't worth the money that Carr, Stafford and Cousins are getting paid.

KC has been a starter for two seasons. He has in fact put up two back to back winning seasons. He has never had a defense to this point because we have been trying to recover from the last QB mistake we made.

Wrong on Brady. Check again.

Going into last season, Ryan was 1-4 in the playoffs having not won a game in three tries. Last year was a complete fluke in Ryan's career.

I bring Dilfer up because you think winning football games is earning your paycheck. It has nothing to do with individual play. It has everything to do with winning, unless that doesn't fit your argument.

Kirk Cousins has won the division in 50% of his starting seasons to this point. Of all the QBs you listed, he may be the only one that can say that.

 

[gkekoa]

How long have you been building for and how long is too long?

This is year three of building because we were still recovering from the fiasco trade to get RGME.

 

[gkekoa]

Garappolo was thrown to the wolves last year and didn't show any signs of not being as good as everyone thinks he is.

Thrown to the wolves? He wasn't a rookie, he was playing behind a great OL, he had the #1 scoring defense, and had the entire preseason to get ready for his known four starts, which he was injured for two of them.

 

[gkekoa]

That's probably true. Unless you are in the KC front office, we'll never know. Maybe they plan on giving Mahomes the Rodgers treatment. Maybe they plan of having him sit a year behind Smith. Maybe Smith plans on testing the waters next year and opt out of hit contract with KC. Noone really knows. All I know is Alex Smith is a more successful QB than Stafford and Cousins and is definitely worth the $14 mil he's making this year

You are correct. We will never know for sure. That being said, there are plenty of arguments stating that Mahommes was drafted because Smith just can't win it.

What makes Smith more successful than Stafford or Cousins?

BTW, I totally agree Smith is worth 14 mil per season.

 

[Yo Tee]

KC has been a starter for two seasons. He has in fact put up two back to back winning seasons. He has never had a defense to this point because we have been trying to recover from the last QB mistake we made.

Wrong on Brady. Check again.

Going into last season, Ryan was 1-4 in the playoffs having not won a game in three tries. Last year was a complete fluke in Ryan's career.

I bring Dilfer up because you think winning football games is earning your paycheck. It has nothing to do with individual play. It has everything to do with winning, unless that doesn't fit your argument.

Kirk Cousins has won the division in 50% of his starting seasons to this point. Of all the QBs you listed, he may be the only one that can say that.

If you're okay with 9 win seasons that's fine. I am not. Especially if my QB is getting overpaid.

Last year might of been a fluke, but he's still more successful than Cousins.

I did my research on Brady, maybe you should check on that. 24th in total yards allowed, 24th in passing yards allowed, 21st in rushing yards per attempt, 22nd in drives ending in a score. It wasn't good.\

Winning football games does factor into how much you SHOULD be paid. So SHOULD individual play. But if you are throwing for 5,000 yards every season but you can barely make the playoffs, I'd be looking for a change.

That's a horrible justification and defense of Kirk Cousins. That's like saying "well Dak Prescott is first among all active QBs in winning percentage." It's an unfair argument.

 

[Yo Tee]

You are correct. We will never know for sure. That being said, there are plenty of arguments stating that Mahommes was drafted because Smith just can't win it.

What makes Smith more successful than Stafford or Cousins?

BTW, I totally agree Smith is worth 14 mil per season.

Smith has a playoff win AND multiple division titles AND 2 pro bowls. Stafford and Cousins each have 0 playoff wins and 1 pro bowl. Cousins has 1 division title, Stafford has 0.

 

[skinsdad62]

How long have you been building for and how long is too long?

does it matter ? our team was a train wreck before SM arrived . we still need work on the defense and the run game . we dont have really good depth either . we are what our record says we are , about a 500 team until proven otherwise

 

[Yo Tee]

does it matter ? our team was a train wreck before SM arrived . we still need work on the defense and the run game . we dont have really good depth either . we are what our record says we are , about a 500 team until proven otherwise

And that's exactly what I think you guys are too. 7-8 wins. Is that worth $24-27 mil a year? I don't think so.