SportsHoopla's Most Storied Program Tournament - (3) USC vs (6) Alabama

[iowajerms]

Winner faces the winner of Notre Dame vs Michigan (NDvsMICH thread will open sometime this weekend)
Loser faces the winner of Miami (FL) vs Washington

Will be able to change vote until deadline. Higher seed advances in case of a tie

Bracket

Spoiler: Threads to Round 1

UCLA vs Washington thread
Miami (FL) vs Michigan State thread
LSU vs Auburn thread
Tennessee vs Clemson thread
Florida vs Arkansas thread
Florida State vs Ole Miss thread
Georgia vs Georgia Tech thread
Penn State vs Texas A&M thread

Spoiler: Threads to Championship Round 2

Oklahoma vs Washington thread
Texas vs Miami (FL) thread
Nebraska vs LSU thread
Ohio State vs Tennessee
Alabama vs Florida thread
USC vs Florida thread
Michigan vs Georgia thread
Notre Dame vs Penn State thread

Spoiler: Threads to Consolation Round 2

Penn State vs UCLA thread
Georgia vs Michigan State thread
Florida State vs Auburn thread
Florida vs Clemson thread
Miami (FL) vs Georgia Tech thread
Washington vs Texas A&M thread

Spoiler: Threads to Quarterfinals and Consolation Round 3

Oklahoma vs Texas thread
Ohio State vs Nebraska thread

Florida State vs Florida thread
Penn State vs Georgia thread

 

[iowajerms]

This is how the NCAA individual wrestling brackets worked

*A* = The loser between Nebraska vs Ohio State
*C* = The loser between Michigan vs Notre Dame
*D* = The loser between USC vs Alabama winner
*E* = The loser of the semifinals on bottom half of bracket
*F* = The loser of the semifinals on top half of bracket
*G* = The loser of "G" match goes for 7th place
*H* = The loser of "H" match goes for 5th place

Winsipedia - USC Trojans vs. Alabama Crimson Tide football series history

 

[pennstatenut]

As much as I dislike Bama I can't believe they are the 6th seed.

 

[KansasSooner]

Damn this one is going be tough. USC had all those Heisman backs, but Bama gave us Bart Starr, Joe Namath, Kenny Stabler and dead trees.

 

[nddulac]

Good matchup!

1. Alabama has more national championships, and USC has more Heisman trophy winners.
2. Alabama has Harvey Updyke, and USC has Gypsy Boots.
3. Alabama has been on NCAA probation three times, and USC has incurred the wrath of the NCAA an astounding six times!

This was an easy call for USC.

 

[outofyourmind]

Do bull shit made up and claimed NC's add to the "Story" or are we just going by AP/Coaches/BCS NC's???

 

[Red_Alert]

Tough one indeed.

 

[pennstatenut]

Do bull shit made up and claimed NC's add to the "Story" or are we just going by AP/Coaches/BCS NC's???

I think we're going to count those years before 1970 in this one.

 

[theSabanator20]

Well I'm not going to act like I'm not voting Alabama, but given that Alabama is better in the post season, and has more Super Bowl winning QBs, and at least 2 dynasties with 3 titles in 5 years, and doesn't lose to unranked foes when they are at the top of the college football world(like USC is famous for), I'm going to Roll with the Tide.

But this will be the closest matchup yet IMO.

 

[theSabanator20]

Alabama also has the most Rose Bowl wins and appearances of any non automatic conference qualifier for the Rose Bowl game I.e. B1G, Pac12

 

[iowajerms]

Do bull shit made up and claimed NC's add to the "Story" or are we just going by AP/Coaches/BCS NC's???

I guess that is up to the voter. I like how a Texas fan put it in the Ohio State vs Nebraska thread. If there was a history book about each team, which one do you think is thicker or most interesting?

 

[theSabanator20]

Honestly though, I think this matchup, because the numbers are so close on both sides, should be discussed from a historical standpoint. Like, all years considered.

 

[iowajerms]

I picked USC because they own most of the stats, IMO they have a better stadium, they have better tradition (but I think I would rather tailgate in Bama), they helped make the Rose Bowl what it is today. I also think USC is far more consistent.

However, @theSabanator20 is making me think about changing with the few arguments he made.

 

[Red_Alert]

I think location needs to be taken into consideration. USC is in a highly populated area and should get great players. Bama has to go out of state shopping. So in theory Bama has done a lot with less.

 

[nddulac]

Alabama also has the most Rose Bowl wins and appearances of any non automatic conference qualifier for the Rose Bowl game I.e. B1G, Pac12

I don't think you want to count Rose Bowl wins if you want to help Alabama . . .

 

[pennstatenut]

Honestly though, I think this matchup, because the numbers are so close on both sides, should be discussed from a historical standpoint. Like, all years considered.

It's about the most storied program. Every one of them should count every year.

 

[outofyourmind]

AP/Coaches/BCS NC's
Alabama 10
USC 7

Conference Championships
Alabama 28
USC 38

All Time Bowls
Alabama 32-24-3
USC 33-17-0

Considering that USC played in a 1 team Conference and that they only had sporadic competition from other teams for most of their existence it's surprising they haven't done better. They are like Texas in the SWC except with more NC's.

 

[Red_Alert]

AP/Coaches/BCS NC's
Alabama 10
USC 7

Conference Championships
Alabama 28
USC 38

All Time Bowls
Alabama 32-24-3
USC 33-17-0

Considering that USC played in a 1 team Conference and that they only had sporadic competition from other teams for most of their existence it's surprising they haven't done better. They are like Texas in the SWC except with more NC's.

Well nobody under-achieves like Texas does.

I will add that USC out-of-conference record is really good. They'll play anybody anywhere. They do not play FCS teams period.

 

[KansasSooner]

Bama 5-2 vs USC, Bama has won both bowl games against USC, in the other 5 games the road team won!

 

[Codaxx]

Which year did a 1 loss USC team go to Bama and win, but Bama still won the title?

(I had to throw that in, it will come up)