SportsHoopla's Most Storied Program Tournament - (3) USC vs (6) Alabama

[theSabanator20]

As far as individual Awards and accomplishments(NFL picks, Heisman, etc) USC has the edge.
As far as team Awards and accomplishments (Bowl appearances, championships, etc) Bama has the edge.

The only way to decide is to see who's entire history is more fascinating. Because otherwise, its pretty dead even. The history between these 2 teams themselves is interesting, if you wanna look it up. Changed football in the South forever. Plus both of their history in the Rose Bowl separately is quite interesting.

Throw that in with USC "winning" the 2003 National Championship without playing in it, even with the BCS choosing 1 and 2, and Alabama being refused for being an all white team in 1966, in which the Bear himself said was the greatest team he's ever coached, only to watch Michigan State and Notre Dame play for all the marbles and finish in the Infamous "10-10 Tie", they've had their fair share of nondeserving and deserving title chances. (I only add this because of the shit Alabama takes for claimed titles, even though everyone does it.)

The 1970 game that changed college football in the Southeast forever, in which USC beat Alabama handily, was avenged in 1971(which Alabama has been famous for on multiple occasions recently) when Alabama returned the favor and gave USC a taste of their own medicine running the wishbone and topping USC in their house, like the Trojans did the previous year to the Tide.

Im going to read up some more tomorrow on both teams, and add to this thread.

 

[Bamabino]

Nothing to be butthurt about except the retard who seeded Bama #6. Only Bama, USC, Texas and Michigan can claim a winning record over all their conference opponents.Learn some football son. LMAO@ USC and the west coast taking their ball and running home in 1946.

 

[The Crimson King]

@Bama fans in here lobbying. In the spirit of that, I offer the following case in favor of USC:

The Bama fan meltdown will be epic if USC wins this.

They've been waiting for this for weeks

 

[4down20]

They've been waiting for this for weeks

I have

 

[trojanfan12]

Nothing to be butthurt about except the retard who seeded Bama #6. Only Bama, USC, Texas and Michigan can claim a winning record over all their conference opponents.Learn some football son. LMAO@ USC and the west coast taking their ball and running home in 1946.

Yeah, I don't get Bama being #6 either. You do understand that this is about the most "storied" program though, right? It's not just accomplishments. If that were the case, Princeton and Yale with their respective 28 and 27 NC's should be #1 and #2.

"Storied" includes traditions, lore, etc. that's why Notre Dame, imo, is the #1 storied program of all time even though they really haven't been all that relevant since the late 80's or early 90's.

 

[cowboys5xsbs]

Nothing to be butthurt about except the retard who seeded Bama #6. Only Bama, USC, Texas and Michigan can claim a winning record over all their conference opponents.Learn some football son. LMAO@ USC and the west coast taking their ball and running home in 1946.

 

[The Crimson King]

Nothing to be butthurt about except the retard who seeded Bama #6. Only Bama, USC, Texas and Michigan can claim a winning record over all their conference opponents.Learn some football son. LMAO@ USC and the west coast taking their ball and running home in 1946.

Weren't you at that game?

 

[Bamabino]

Yeah, I don't get Bama being #6 either. You do understand that this is about the most "storied" program though, right? It's not just accomplishments. If that were the case, Princeton and Yale with their respective 28 and 27 NC's should be #1 and #2.

"Storied" includes traditions, lore, etc. that's why Notre Dame, imo, is the #1 storied program of all time even though they really haven't been all that relevant since the late 80's or early 90's.

College Football Data Warehouse got your "storied" right chere. All-time rankings.


1

Alabama



2

Notre Dame (IN)



3

Southern California



4

Oklahoma



5

Ohio St.



6

Michigan

7

Texas



8

Nebraska



9

Louisiana St.



10

Tennessee

 

[Bamabino]

Nobody axed you cowboy fag.

 

[trojanfan12]

College Football Data Warehouse got your "storied" right chere. All-time rankings.


1

Alabama



2

Notre Dame (IN)



3

Southern California



4

Oklahoma



5

Ohio St.



6

Michigan

7

Texas



8

Nebraska



9

Louisiana St.



10

Tennessee

Uh, that wasn't most "storied" that was all time rankings based on Winning percentage, schedule points, national championship points and big 4 bowl points.

Seems like you may be having trouble understanding what "storied" means.

 

[nddulac]

Apparently our fight song didn't get the memo.

Are you sure you know Alabama's Rose Bowl history?

The record is 4-1-1 in favor of Alabama. And the last win was in 1946 against USC with a 34-14 win.

Okay - since you insist.

as per University of Southern California Official Athletic Site - Traditions

USC has appeared in an unprecedented 32 Rose Bowls, where it has a 24-8 mark (.750) (not including 1 appearance, 1 win and 1 loss later vacated due to NCAA penalty; original record: 33 Rose Bowls, 24-9, .718). That is not only the most Rose Bowl wins of any team, but also the most wins by a school in a single bowl. USC has won 11 of its last 13 Rose Bowls (not including 1 appearances and 1 loss later vacated due to NCAA penalty; original record: 11 of its last 14). USC is the only team to win 3 consecutive Rose Bowls (2007-08-09). USC twice played in 4 consecutive Rose Bowl games (1967 to 1970 and 2006 to 2009); Ohio State (1973 to 1976) is the only other team to have done so.

 

[nddulac]

But they play Notre Dame every year...

Oh - don't bring up Alabama's record against Notre Dame. The gumps don't want to hear it.

 

[4down20]

Okay - since you insist.

as per University of Southern California Official Athletic Site - Traditions

Your argument is that the Rose Bowl came to an agreement that only allowed the Pac and Big10 into the bowl game and the Pac was a 1 team conference for decades?

USC was damn near given AQ status for the Rose Bowl.

 

[KansasSooner]

Oh - don't bring up Alabama's record against Notre Dame. The gumps don't want to hear it.

I was referring to USC-ND, as the poster I quoted talked about USC's easy path to the NC or something like that.

 

[nddulac]

"Storied" includes traditions, lore, etc. that's why Notre Dame, imo, is the #1 storied program of all time even though they really haven't been all that relevant since the late 80's or early 90's.

Notre Dame was pretty relevant to USC between the years 1983 and 1995

 

[4down20]

Oh - don't bring up Alabama's record against Notre Dame. The gumps don't want to hear it.

The only thing that has ever bothered me about Notre Dame is going for a lame ass tie and winning a National Championship out of it.

If you win a game, grats.

 

[nddulac]

I was referring to USC-ND, as the poster I quoted talked about USC's easy path to the NC or something like that.

Well, in fairness - USC probably doesn't want their record against Notre Dame to be overly published either. (Although, I do think that USC has more wins against Notre Dame than any other program.)

 

[The Crimson King]

The only thing that has ever bothered me about Notre Dame is going for a lame ass tie and winning a National Championship out of it.

If you win a game, grats.

Surely bama's tied a game to win a national championship sometime

 

[4down20]

Surely bama's tied a game to win a national championship sometime

 

[iowajerms]

Why is it that the only ones that have really complained about seeds are those from the state of Alabama?

When I started it, an Auburn fan complained about their seed. Now an Alabama is complaining about Alabama's seed when they get in a thread they might lose?