SportsHoopla Hokie potential Offensive Coach Tracker

Camfantasy · Jan 17, 2013

robV703 said:
It's been called that before, but not by you.

Camfantasy · Jan 17, 2013

VTfoozball said:
Because I want to know the damned logic behind allowing an under performing unit to persist year after year after year. If he builds a national championship case then he better do something else besides waiting for another Mike Vick to come around to fill it. No I can't say I want Beamer gone after these changes if indeed they go through.

I don't understand people who show support or faith in the former offensive coaches to make the right decisions. They sucked. The RB rotation last year sucked so I question the abilities of whoever was in charge of that. When your starting QB is near the bottom of the NCAA in several categories, then yeah you explore other options even if it's only temporary. Why they didn't I'll never know. I don't know that it's Beamers decision anyway about the starting QB but I'd say if it was Stinespring's he'd do whatever Beamer asked because of their unusual relationship. And I wasn't talking about a conspiracy in keeping Stinespring on the staff, I was questioning the decision to promote him to OC and keep him there. Just look at Stinespring's resume that I posted in this thread earlier

hokie43 · Jan 17, 2013

Might be a silly question, but do the coaches need to be "officially hired" to be able to recruit? It would be nice if the coaches can go out and recruit right now.

hunzworth · Jan 17, 2013

hokie43 said:
Might be a silly question, but do the coaches need to be "officially hired" to be able to recruit? It would be nice if the coaches can go out and recruit right now.

pretty sure they have to be on staff to be out recruiting, should be official soon though. I'd assume they will spend the first little bit locking down the verbals for this year and getting in contact with guys for next cycle.

robV703 · Jan 17, 2013

Camfantasy said:

HoHumHokie · Jan 17, 2013

I guess Beamer gave up on OCain's ability "land safely" after he was turned down for the Charleston Southern job.

Mike Barber ‏@RTD_MikeBarber
Virginia Tech QB coach and offensive play-caller Mike O'Cain says he was fired on Tuesday.

VTscores · Jan 17, 2013

It's not like he didn't have adequate warning.

hokiegrad · Jan 18, 2013

hokie43 said:
Might be a silly question, but do the coaches need to be "officially hired" to be able to recruit? It would be nice if the coaches can go out and recruit right now.

It appears Sherman is already out recruiting for Purdue, so I don't see why it couldn't work the other way around as well.
http://www.jconline.com/article/20130114/SPORTS020101/301140022/Purdue-football-Boilermakers

hokiegrad · Jan 18, 2013

The quotes in this article are terrific..
Virginia Tech has fired QB coach Mike O?Cain | Virginia Tech Sports

O'Cain:

Sometimes you don’t understand why things happen when they do.

I think we were pretty good

There was never any indication during the season that anything was going to happen... I’ve been in this profession for 36 years. You know when things aren’t going good and you’re struggling and there’s a disgruntled bunch out there, for whatever the reason, that that could happen. But I had no inclination that it was going to happen.

VTscores · Jan 18, 2013

O'Cain seems less aware than most of the people on this board.

I sympathize with him on the age thing, but that's not enough reason to keep him around. He got paid a decent salary, so I hope he stocked something away. Plus, can't he collect unemployment for an unlimited amount of time these days?

rockhead44 · Jan 18, 2013

O'Cain cannot complain. He got a nice payday for 7 years. Prior to that, he was so in-demand as a coach that he was working Hokie Replay for Comcast SportsNet.

I am thrilled to see him gone. Newsome being replaced is anothe rpositive. If Hite were to be off the sideline, things would be even better.

hokieone · Jan 18, 2013

rockhead44 said:
O'Cain cannot complain. He got a nice payday for 7 years. Prior to that, he was so in-demand as a coach that he was working Hokie Replay for Comcast SportsNet.

I am thrilled to see him gone. Newsome being replaced is anothe rpositive. If Hite were to be off the sideline, things would be even better.

Hite has been off the sideline since lil' Beamer and Cornell Brown came on board. Both he and Coach Cav were moved to administrative posts to make room for the two new coaches. Neither are allowed to actually do any coaching anymore.

In fact, rumor is even Hite is wondering what he is getting paid for these days.

hunzworth · Jan 18, 2013

hokieone said:
Hite has been off the sideline since lil' Beamer and Cornell Brown came on board. Both he and Coach Cav were moved to administrative posts to make room for the two new coaches. Neither are allowed to actually do any coaching anymore.

In fact, rumor is even Hite is wondering what he is getting paid for these days.

Hite is still on the sideline as an advisor to BigBeamer. I think that is what he was refering too, as it is rumored that he 'advises" Frank about playcalling and decision making.

hunzworth · Jan 18, 2013

hokiegrad said:
The quotes in this article are terrific..
Virginia Tech has fired QB coach Mike O?Cain | Virginia Tech Sports

There was never any indication during the season that anything was going to happen... I’ve been in this profession for 36 years. You know when things aren’t going good and you’re struggling and there’s a disgruntled bunch out there, for whatever the reason, that that could happen. But I had no inclination that it was going to happen.

Click to expand...

O'Cain:

^ nice of him to cover up (i guess) for Beamer and VT but he knew months ago he wouldnt be retained.

rockhead44 · Jan 18, 2013

hunzworth said:
Hite is still on the sideline as an advisor to BigBeamer. I think that is what he was refering too, as it is rumored that he 'advises" Frank about playcalling and decision making.

Exactly. Anyone who watched games the past 2 seasons saw him front and center wearing a headset on the sidelines. Odd for a guy who isn't a "coach"

awaz · Jan 18, 2013

Bitter's tweeting that loeffler, grims, and moorehead are now officially hired. OC, OL, WR respectively

woo for me breaking news!

http://www.hokiesports.com/football/recaps/20130118aaa.html

HoHumHokie · Jan 18, 2013

awaz said:
Bitter's tweeting that loeffler, grims, and moorehead are now officially hired. OC, OL, WR respectively

woo for me breaking news!

Beamer announces football coaching staff changes

And they don't officially start until Jan. 25?!?! They need to be in the film room immediately trying to resolve the mess that OCain and Newsome have created!

hokiecheme11 · Jan 18, 2013

could they have picked a creepier picture for Morrehead? haha

HoHumHokie · Jan 18, 2013

hokiecheme11 said:
could they have picked a creepier picture for Morrehead? haha

Lol. Every picture I've seen of Morehead looks a bit creepy....kind of reminds of this guy....

VTscores · Jan 18, 2013

On paper, that lineup looks like they can coach football. I'm really hoping they'll be able to gel and improve the VT offense. Right now, I've got every reason to believe they can. Loeffler seems custom made to pick up the VT offense from right where they are and kick it up a notch. The VT offense isn't the dumpster fire he inherited at Auburn.

Grimes should be a huge improvement, and I like Moorehead as well.

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