Sox don't even cheat, still win easily

[Uno]

That is why fanduel is perfect! You can make a new roster any night and have completely different players the next night. Fo money!

Do you have to do it on a regular basis or is it just a one time bet and you never have to do it again?

 

[chappee11]

The point I was trying to make from the start, was exactly what you said...and had you been the one to say it, the rest of your fanbase probably doesn't lose their shit the way down, zig and chappee have...

And like when I wasn't willing to put a win number to it at the time, I still am not...I think the red sox still would have been better going with those guys...if they outperform the replacements, I'll have been right...win/loss totals aren't going to change that...there's too many other variables involved...and like I proved earlier, the sox could have maintained all of those variables except stephen drew at the same price as last year's team

I don't disagree entirely. But you are dismissing the whole concept of "team". They are 20-8 with this group. It's working. Crawford was miserable and needed to go. Beckett had worn out his welcome. Agonz turned out to be a total diva. 3 guys don't make a team.

Also, 2013 stats aren't the correct comp. You need to compare what the Sox got from those 1B, LF & 4th starter last year to what they get from those positions this year. That tells the accurate story. Not how Agonz, Beckett and Crawford are doing in an entirely different league.

 

[Uno]

I don't disagree entirely. But you are dismissing the whole concept of "team". They are 20-8 with this group. It's working. Crawford was miserable and needed to go. Beckett had worn out his welcome. Agonz turned out to be a total diva. 3 guys don't make a team.

Also, 2013 stats aren't the correct comp. You need to compare what the Sox got from those 1B, LF & 4th starter last year to what they get from those positions this year. That tells the accurate story. Not how Agonz, Beckett and Crawford are doing in an entirely different league.

No, I addressed it when I said there were too many variables to go by the win/loss record...Which is exactly why I never made a win/loss prediction based on my claim

And how those 3 did last year is irrelevant to my claim that the sox would be better off with them THIS YEAR...I never claimed the sox of 2013 would be worse than what they got out of 2012...no matter how many times you claim I said it...I said the sox of 2013 would be better off with the guys they had on the roster in 2012 (just those three) than the 3 guys they replaced them with

 

[Lord Scalious]

Not sure...probably 15-30

Serve them in Chilled/Frosted Glasses..

That's how they were always served when I had one at least..

 

[Uno]

Serve them in Chilled/Frosted Glasses..

That's how they were always served when I had one at least..

Hopefully they set that up for me...Looks like I'm getting the ingredients for the last recipe I posted

 

[Uno]

channeling rock here:

Vince Lombardi accepted gay players on his team

Posted by Michael David Smith on May 3, 2013, 2:41 PM EDT

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The ongoing debate about how a gay NFL player would be treated in the locker room has largely focused on the idea that times are changing, and that acceptance of a gay player would be a modern development. But it’s often overlooked that the ultimate example of the old-school football coach was also perfectly fine with having gay players on his team.

Multiple players who played for Vince Lombardi, the legendary former Packers and Redskins coach, say that he knew some of his players were gay, and that not only did he not have a problem with it, but he went out of his way to make sure no one else on his team would make it a problem.

In 1969, Lombardi’s Redskins included a running back named Ray McDonald, who in 1968 had been arrested for having sex with another man in public. In the Lombardi biography When Pride Still Mattered, author David Maraniss writes that Lombardi told his assistants he wanted them to work with McDonald to help him make the team, “And if I hear one of you people make reference to his manhood, you’ll be out of here before your ass hits the ground.”

Lombardi’s daughter Susan told Ian O’Connor of ESPNNewYork.com that her father would have been thrilled to have a player like Jason Collins, the NBA center who publicly revealed this week that he is gay.

“My father was way ahead of his time,” Susan Lombardi said. “He was discriminated against as a dark-skinned Italian American when he was younger, when he felt he was passed up for coaching jobs that he deserved. He felt the pain of discrimination, and so he raised his family to accept everybody, no matter what color they were or whatever their sexual orientation was. I think it’s great what Jason Collins did, because it’s going to open a lot of doors for people. Without a doubt my father would’ve embraced him, and would’ve been very proud of him for coming out.”

Dave Kopay, the first former NFL player to come out, also played on those 1969 Redskins, and he says that while he never told Lombardi, he believes Lombardi knew not only that Kopay was gay, but that Kopay and another Redskins player, Jerry Smith, were in a romantic relationship.

“Lombardi protected and loved Jerry,” Kopay told O’Connor.

Lombardi’s brother Harold was gay, and when Harold died in July of 2011 he was survived by his partner of 41 years — meaning their relationship began just before Vince died in September of 1970. As noted by Doug Farrar of Yahoo! Sports, Vince knew Harold was gay and didn’t just believe in “tolerance” but believed strongly that discrimination against gay people was wrong, just as he was angered when he saw mistreatment of his black players, or discrimination against his fellow Italian-Americans.

If a coach who was considered old-fashioned even by the standards of the 1960s accepted gay players in his locker room, the idea that gay players couldn’t be accepted in an NFL locker room in 2013 is both silly and sad.

 

[chappee11]

No, I addressed it when I said there were too many variables to go by the win/loss record...Which is exactly why I never made a win/loss prediction based on my claim

And how those 3 did last year is irrelevant to my claim that the sox would be better off with them THIS YEAR...I never claimed the sox of 2013 would be worse than what they got out of 2012...no matter how many times you claim I said it...I said the sox of 2013 would be better off with the guys they had on the roster in 2012 (just those three) than the 3 guys they replaced them with

I think you are revising your viewpoint with the benefit of a little hindsight. I don't recall you putting a number on it, but you did expect them to be worse off without all of that talent that went to LA. And you know that trade was about much more than 2013. I was expecting this to be a rebuilding year.

But keep in mind that Victorino, Napoli and Dumpster are replacing stats from 2012....not the stats that 3 guys put up playing for the Dodgers this year. too many variables to quantify it any other way.

 

[CowboyB]

Do you have to do it on a regular basis or is it just a one time bet and you never have to do it again?

We have a $2 league that we try to run daily but it is completely up to you. They have leagues from free and $1 all the way up to big cheese.

 

[J_E_T_S]

Cowboy, we need 2 more, 20 miunutes left, you expecting anyone or should i whore out for 2 gabronis?

 

[J_E_T_S]

Do you have to do it on a regular basis or is it just a one time bet and you never have to do it again?

you can try it for free, if you do it for $$$ it's a min. 10 dollar deposit, and a $$$ league is min. $1


but it is daily......so if 1 day you have the time, you can fill in a team (salary cap based teams)........if the next day your busy, you have no obligation to do it.....i'll personally go days without doing it, and then go a week straight when i do one every night

 

[J_E_T_S]

OMG anyone who listens to T&R ------- i have had that savage garden song in my head allllllllllll day

 

[Uno]

I think you are revising your viewpoint with the benefit of a little hindsight. I don't recall you putting a number on it, but you did expect them to be worse off without all of that talent that went to LA. And you know that trade was about much more than 2013. I was expecting this to be a rebuilding year.

But keep in mind that Victorino, Napoli and Dumpster are replacing stats from 2012....not the stats that 3 guys put up playing for the Dodgers this year. too many variables to quantify it any other way.

No, I repeatedly said it wasn't about comparing 2012 to 2013...a billion times I've said it

You're the one attempting to revise history...because you have no retort to my argument

 

[Uno]

We have a $2 league that we try to run daily but it is completely up to you. They have leagues from free and $1 all the way up to big cheese.

How does it work? Do I have to participate daily is my question?

 

[Uno]

you can try it for free, if you do it for $$$ it's a min. 10 dollar deposit, and a $$$ league is min. $1


but it is daily......so if 1 day you have the time, you can fill in a team (salary cap based teams)........if the next day your busy, you have no obligation to do it.....i'll personally go days without doing it, and then go a week straight when i do one every night

Pretty cool...maybe I'll try it during the week

 

[bksballer89]

Only 935 post?

Slow day?

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

FUCK THE CELTICS

 

[Most Driven]

The Celtics knew it was a 7:00 game right?

 

[PeteNYC]

The Celtics knew it was a 7:00 game right?

Yawn... it's the NBA, call me with two minutes left, it'll be a tie game.

 

[Halos02]

Heat -- by Ricky Romero (and yes, Angels pitchers as well) standards, that was a pretty solid outing!

 

[PeteNYC]

OMG, the Jays are losing... I am shocked