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I just wish somebody would remove the pin from the back of their Jarome Iginla voodoo doll...

talk to this guy.

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Well then, the next time Jarome Iginla is curb-stomping the Flyers, make sure someone calls him the N-word, that way he'll start a fight and get ejected and Shanabanned.

Oh, wait - there might be a problem with your plan...

And I give him every right to curb stomp our players if someone does say that. My argument is that nobody is calling a black guy the N word. Nobody is calling a homosexual a fag (arguable in this avery case). These are just words thrown around that have been adopted by our culture.

Is it right? no, but it is not going away any time soon and punishing one player for saying it because Avery got under his skin would be ridiculous.
 

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But this society is going to condone it. It's just what we have become. This word will go away when people get bored of using it unfortunately, and not when they feel bad for whom they are offending.

Not if we start making it clear that it's not an acceptable term.

Back in the day, the N-word, or even one of its lesser variants were thrown around left and right. Now it's completely unacceptable. Because society convinced people it was bad.
 

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I just wish somebody would remove the pin from the back of their Jarome Iginla voodoo doll...

How about we trade you Simmons for him, then everyone is happy, you know affirmative action and all that.:mullet:
 

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Not if we start making it clear that it's not an acceptable term.

Back in the day, the N-word, or even one of its lesser variants were thrown around left and right. Now it's completely unacceptable. Because society convinced people it was bad.

The N word became horrible because it represented something bigger than color of skin. It represented slavery and discrimination beyond belief.

I don't think people will feel sorry for saying "fag" because:

1. It has taken on a new meaning. It is every day vernacular when it comes to trash talking

2. Gays haven't suffered to the extent african americans have (except the rare occasions where some assholes take it too far).
 

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The N word became horrible because it represented something bigger than color of skin. It represented slavery and discrimination beyond belief.

I don't think people will feel sorry for saying "fag" because:

1. It has taken on a new meaning. It is every day vernacular when it comes to trash talking

2. Gays haven't suffered to the extent african americans have (except the rare occasions where some assholes take it too far).

1. That's basically my point though. The N word used to be everyday vernacular also. Over time, the vernacular evolved to the point that it's not everyday.

2. I think that's debatable if one considers this on a global, historic level. The history is certainly not as well-recorded as the history of the slave trade, but keep in mind that it's still illegal to be gay in some parts of the world, and also punishable by death in some of those countries. The Spanish conquistadores in South and Central America typically executed gays in the most gruesome ways possible. In most parts of Europe for some 1500 years or so, being gay was punishable by death, and gays were executed during the Holocaust also, and many branches of the three Abrahamic religions still condemn it as sin today.

However, I understand that I'm not going to change your view on it. I'm trying to point out that there really are similarities in the history behind the two words, it's just that one is a bit more recent than the other, so the vernacular hasn't changed in the same ways yet.
 
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