Sharks unable to turn a profit?

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Thanks, higgy (I think) - That pic is a bit dated and all in honesty, Joe has been pretty good for the Sharkies in the playoffs the past couple of years. Patty Marleau has been the invisible guy as of late, in my opinion.

 

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In case anyone is wondering about league ticket prices:

Stars have cheapest average ticket in NHL - Dallas Stars Blog - ESPN Dallas

 

[jstewismybastardson]

In case anyone is wondering about league ticket prices:

Stars have cheapest average ticket in NHL - Dallas Stars Blog - ESPN Dallas

or just go right here

http://www.fancostexperience.com/pages/fcx/fci_pdfs/6.pdf

 

[abaskin18]

can you explain the bold. what do you mean by that?

I thought that I'd need to explain that a little. I'm not comparing the two players at all outside of the feeble, imo, perception many hockey fans had of Sakic before he won a cup and many hockey fans have of Marleau now.

They might not even be wrong about Marleau, but I personally don't have the ability to determine if a player is stoic, quiet, and leads by example OR lazy, uninterested and lacks that "it" factor. To me the difference is winning, then the latter baseless perception magically changes into the former baseless perception.

It might just be a me thing, but I feel like I can see "it" in a lot of players but have a harder time seeing (EDIT: and concluding that) someone doesn't have "it." Maybe it's because I work with a lot of folks who, while all brilliant and productive, run the gamut on the personality spectrum.

Anyway, that's all I meant: Sakic is an all-timer and Marleau ain't even close, but they both had the same BS (imo) label because they didn't have that "winning" attitude...until they win. It's a cross sport thing too, Peyton didn't have it...until he did. Steve Young didn't have it...until he did. Lebron didn't have it...until he did.

 

[abaskin18]

gate revenue dwarfs media deals in all but maybe 5 NHL markets

Ill compare the Sharks gate to the Canucks gate because while the canucks local broadcasting deal is large it cant be described as mammoth

Canucks ticket prices are an average of 40% higher than Sharks tickets ... I think sharks raising ticket prices would really take a bite out of that $15 mill loss ... the question is ... can the market sustain that price ... the answer probably not ... with the history of playoff flameouts

Fair enough.

But what does the Canucks Media revenue look like relative to the Sharks?

 

[Nasty_Magician]

or just go right here

http://www.fancostexperience.com/pages/fcx/fci_pdfs/6.pdf

Wow, Devils premium tickets are ridiculous. That's why if you watch Devils games the upper bowl and behind the nets are filled. The empty seats are always the center ice lower level ones. It's been like that for years, no idea why they don't just lower them.

 

[Slimpikins]

I blame it on the refs and other franchises obvious market goonery.

 

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I blame it on the refs and other franchises obvious market goonery.

Damn you TrueNiners!!

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Fair enough.

But what does the Canucks Media revenue look like relative to the Sharks?

i used to know that number but it escapes me now ... i can ask someone who knows

no clue on the sharks number

forbes says that 50 to 60% of total nhl revenues are gate and I read a report (that report that said more cdn cities could support NHL teams) that around 10% (average) of individual cdn team revenues are local broadcasting deals ... using that ... canucks would probably be around $15 mill in local broadcast revenue

 

[abaskin18]

i used to know that number but it escapes me now ... i can ask someone who knows

no clue on the sharks number

forbes says that 50 to 60% of total nhl revenues are gate and I read a report (that report that said more cdn cities could support NHL teams) that around 10% (average) of individual cdn team revenues are local broadcasting deals ... using that ... canucks would probably be around $15 mill in local broadcast revenue

Yeah, I don't have a clue on either team's number either. I would think it's at least as great (percentage wise) to the disparity in ticket prices between the two clubs though. SJ just isn't nearly the biggest show in town (the greater Bay Area) and I would reckon that media revenue reflects that.

 

[Eddie_Shack]

Aren't rental prices really high in Northern California? They could introduce a new "Live in Your Seat!" program.




You have to partly blame the fans for making their own jerseys instead of buying them...

That is actually an ancient chain mail artifact unearthed from the world's first nightclub for gay knights.

 

[Vadered]

The NHL Sharks franchise is losing money. Sharks Sports and Entertainment, the group that owns them, is not.

HMMMMMMMMMM.

 

[Destroydacre]

The NHL Sharks franchise is losing money. Sharks Sports and Entertainment, the group that owns them, is not.

HMMMMMMMMMM.

Oh you know, the Racquet Club of Memphis just rakes in the dough.

 

[juliansteed]

Not only do the Sharks have below average ticket prices but they are in the bottom half in attendance as well, despite being at 100% capacity last season. Their building is smaller than most. They could probably afford to raise ticket prices a bit.