Seattle Mariners 2022-2023 Offseason Thread

[NWinAZ]

I heard they were interested in some Japanese outfielder, but haven't heard anything about a pitcher.

It doesn't sound likely but Bogaerts makes so much sense to me. In the short term he could play second or shortstop, and once Suarez's contract expires we could move him to third.

Realistically if we're looking to flip Marco or Flexen for a second baseman, I think the best we're going to get is a mid-tier second baseman who might be a slight upgrade over Frazier.

If we are trading for a 2B, McNeil is my first choice. Not sure who would be my realistic second choice. I highly doubt Marco or Flexen gets us McNeil.

 

[NWinAZ]

France before getting hurt on June 23rd:

.316/.390/.476

After he came back:

.236/.288/.399

I don't think he ever fully recovered and they played him out of necessity. Pretty sure there were a few games he was out in early August after re-aggravating the injury but I could be remembering incorrectly.

I understand he once got hurt, but my point is he had good string of games after coming back and no mention of injury. Only when he struggled they use the excuse of injury. You can't be injured and also be taking nightly BP. An injury doesn't make you chase outside pitches. In fact, a wrist injury hurts more on pitches chased vs pitches struck. Maybe he just ran out of gas is my point. I will let it go and just hope his 'injury' goes away this offseason.

 

[NWinAZ]

Mariners Scouting Masataka Yoshida​

By Maury Ahram | November 13, 2022 at 10:37am CDT

The Mariners have joined the growing list of teams interested in Japanese star outfielder Masataka Yoshida, reports Jon Morosi of MLB Network. Morosi adds that the Mariners will be one of Yoshida’s “top suitors” this winter. However, Yoshida’s current team, the Orix Buffaloes, will have to finalize the terms of his posting agreement before the deadline on December 5th.
Yoshida slashed a robust .336/.449/.559 with 21 homers during the 2022 season, his fifth consecutive season with an on-base percentage greater than .400. His blend of contact and power has led to a lot of early interest in the 29-year-old, with Jon Heyman of the New York Post reporting that the Yankees are also looking at the left-handed hitter.
During the 2022 season, the Mariners primarily relied on an outfield trio of All-Star Julio Rodriguez and former All-Stars Mitch Haniger and Jesse Winker. That group was aided by utilitymen Dylan Moore and Sam Haggerty, former top prospect Jarred Kelenic, and Taylor Trammell. The Mariners also have 2020 Rookie of the Year Kyle Lewis, who spent most of the season in Triple-A Tacoma. Of that group, only Haniger is a free agent, leaving Seattle with a deep outfield mix.
As noted by MLBTR’s Mark Polishuk, since Yoshida has not played enough to earn full free agency, the Buffaloes would have to agree to post their star outfielder and would be entitled to a posting fee based on Yoshida’s major league contract. Under the current MLB-NPB agreement, teams interested in Yoshida would have to pay the Buffaloes a fee equal to 20% of the contract’s first $25MM, 17.5% of the next $25MM, and 15% of any dollars thereafter. Once posted, Yoshida and his representatives will have only 30 days to negotiate a deal with MLB teams. If no agreement is reached during the 30-day window, Yoshida would have to return to the Buffaloes.
Recent players who made the jump from NPB to MLB include Cubs’ outfielder Seiya Suzuki. In Suzuki’s last season with the Hiroshima Carp, the righty slashed .317/.433/.636 which led him to a five-year, $85MM contract with Chicago. However, Suzuki was only 27-years-old when he transitioned to Majors and had posted an OPS north of 1.000 in three of his last four seasons with the Carp.

 

[ulmax]

Yes those are playoff rankings.
But still relevant.
The next 25 ..regular season and still relevant..

51...Ian Happ..52 Swanson 53 ty France..54 kwan and Santander 55.Arozatena 56 binantendi.
63 torres 66 Adams..milwalkee

That is enough I think we get the point..

 

[ulmax]

If we are trading for a 2B, McNeil is my first choice. Not sure who would be my realistic second choice. I highly doubt Marco or Flexen gets us McNeil.

I just don't think ...there is any way..mets give him up....so agreed

 

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Mariners Scouting Masataka Yoshida​

By Maury Ahram | November 13, 2022 at 10:37am CDT

The Mariners have joined the growing list of teams interested in Japanese star outfielder Masataka Yoshida, reports Jon Morosi of MLB Network. Morosi adds that the Mariners will be one of Yoshida’s “top suitors” this winter. However, Yoshida’s current team, the Orix Buffaloes, will have to finalize the terms of his posting agreement before the deadline on December 5th.
Yoshida slashed a robust .336/.449/.559 with 21 homers during the 2022 season, his fifth consecutive season with an on-base percentage greater than .400. His blend of contact and power has led to a lot of early interest in the 29-year-old, with Jon Heyman of the New York Post reporting that the Yankees are also looking at the left-handed hitter.
During the 2022 season, the Mariners primarily relied on an outfield trio of All-Star Julio Rodriguez and former All-Stars Mitch Haniger and Jesse Winker. That group was aided by utilitymen Dylan Moore and Sam Haggerty, former top prospect Jarred Kelenic, and Taylor Trammell. The Mariners also have 2020 Rookie of the Year Kyle Lewis, who spent most of the season in Triple-A Tacoma. Of that group, only Haniger is a free agent, leaving Seattle with a deep outfield mix.
As noted by MLBTR’s Mark Polishuk, since Yoshida has not played enough to earn full free agency, the Buffaloes would have to agree to post their star outfielder and would be entitled to a posting fee based on Yoshida’s major league contract. Under the current MLB-NPB agreement, teams interested in Yoshida would have to pay the Buffaloes a fee equal to 20% of the contract’s first $25MM, 17.5% of the next $25MM, and 15% of any dollars thereafter. Once posted, Yoshida and his representatives will have only 30 days to negotiate a deal with MLB teams. If no agreement is reached during the 30-day window, Yoshida would have to return to the Buffaloes.
Recent players who made the jump from NPB to MLB include Cubs’ outfielder Seiya Suzuki. In Suzuki’s last season with the Hiroshima Carp, the righty slashed .317/.433/.636 which led him to a five-year, $85MM contract with Chicago. However, Suzuki was only 27-years-old when he transitioned to Majors and had posted an OPS north of 1.000 in three of his last four seasons with the Carp.

Masataka yoshida..would seem to fit with..

The whole ops..thing I have been doing...which means..he...would prob be a good mariner..

Idk on the money...if it's the same as..turner.
Or nimmo..or binantendi..why not just go those guys..

21 home runs is good...but if they miss on the other guys..he will do.

Suzuki..did well this year in his 1st year

 

[ulmax]

Suzuki hit 267 in in national league...after 317
In Japan league..I would think it would be relative..

So masataka yoshida..may hit 270 -280..still good..even 290 maybe..

Yoshida..is only..5-8..so they may have to compensate..but I think he would be fine..

 

[ulmax]

The Japanese club gets..a pct of the players contract untill his contract with with the Japan team runs out..start with 20 pct going ..down

Sieya..is a free agent..in both...so he gets all his money..

 

[NWinAZ]

Mariners???

 

[ulmax]

Mariners???

So many guys for Tampa you can't keep them all

 

[ulmax]

Senga..is the pitchers name who is double
Free agent.,.kodai .. senga..

 

[ulmax]

Mariners moose tracks...SB nation

Senga said to be taking trip to San Fran.
SB nation..Julio tweets from Logan Gilbert's wedding...

 

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Senga said to be taking trip to San Fran.
SB nation..Julio tweets from Logan Gilbert's wedding...

Hey ..hey.. hey.,.( Bill Cosby) doing fat Albert..
Lolololo

 

[ulmax]

Tacoma has ..cade Marlow..and Ellis 3b/1b..
On the roster..

Tacoma could use some middle infield...Tampa could supply..

Xavier Edwards..and Johnathan arandia..both..
You bet...mariners need guys..and there they are

 

[ulmax]

1 st off Johnathan arandia had the best ops on n the minors..that makes him a candidate..to trade
For for the mariners .

Bats left..plays 1st 2nr 3b..

I could pass..on Xavier..and go with ji hwon bea

 

[ulmax]

Johnathan arandia..profile..compare
Ty france..

Hits a good ave hits hrs..and RBIs..
6-0 bats left..

 

[ulmax]

With white at Tacoma..a Left handed guy fits.
And toro could be gone..

 

[ulmax]

Tampa fire sale..nice place to shop.

.for maybe AN arandia...for..??
A few minor league..pitchers..maybe Dominican
Maybe not ..???

 

[ulmax]

I don't like trade values..and I don't think I will use them in the future but I checked anyway..

The mariners could prob get him for a pen murphee..
Or something like that..his value is more than kelenic..
According to them..

But Tampa dumps choi..and know arandia..idk on that

 

[ulmax]

Rays trade deadline primer..
SB nation
With teir
1
2
3

It's a lot of guys