Seahawks secondary vs Peyton Manning & Company

[TDs3nOut]

what im worried about with denver is wes welker i would like to match up against them if they want to throw long balls downfield against our secondary but if they start passing to wes for those 8-10 yard plays that turn into an extra 15-20 yards after catch which is what he is infamous for than we have a problem

Welker is actually fifth on the team in yac and Denver is first in the league in that stat.

 

[Wazmankg]

Seattle needs to send everyone for no less then 40% of the first QTR. ..it's worth giving up a TD to do it.

2 sacs, 3 knockdowns in the 1st qtr will change mannings timing for the rest of the game.

If they don't get to him early ..it's all over

Disagree there. They'll give up more than a TD if they send the house at least 40% of the time. Manning will eat that up. I think it might come down to the weather and the refs. If the wind blows hard and makes passing difficult, Denver loses. If the refs keep letting the DBs play like they have been so far in the post season, Denver loses. I think Denver loses. I hope I'm wrong.

 

[tshirt]

interesting stat:

Seahawk receivers had 1 drop per every 29.07 pass attempts (Baldwin had 1 drop per every 36.5 targets, Tate 1 per 31.0, Miller 1 per 51.0, Kearse 1 per 12.7)

Bronco receivers had 1 drop per every 15.32 pass attempts (Welker had 1 drop per every 10.9 targets, D Thomas had 1 per 15.3, Decker had 1 per 16.8, J Thomas 1 per 22.0)

 

[tshirt]

"the Seahawks haven't lost by more than a touchdown since the middle of the 2011 season and in case you forgot when you were dating your last check, it's 2014 now."

 

[Uhsplit]

interesting stat:

Seahawk receivers had 1 drop per every 29.07 pass attempts (Baldwin had 1 drop per every 36.5 targets, Tate 1 per 31.0, Miller 1 per 51.0, Kearse 1 per 12.7)

Bronco receivers had 1 drop per every 15.32 pass attempts (Welker had 1 drop per every 10.9 targets, D Thomas had 1 per 15.3, Decker had 1 per 16.8, J Thomas 1 per 22.0)

I know our WR's have been very reliable when thrown to, yet I hadn't seen those stats. Impressive. Granted, we have no pro bowl WR's this year but they have been solid.
I believe that Seattle's D will give up points in this game but as the game wears on the D will take its toll on Denver's WR's.

 

[tshirt]

turnover margin

over their last ten games:
Denver is -1 in turnover margin
Seattle is +14

in all three of their losses, the Broncos lost the turnover battle

74.4% of the teams that won the Super Bowl (35 of 47) also won the turnover battle in the Super Bowl

eight of the 47 Super Bowl winners ended up tying the turnover battle in the Super Bowl

only four of the 47 Super Bowl winners (8.5%) lost the turnover battle in the Super Bowl:
-2005 Steelers
-1988 49ers
-1979 Steelers
-1970 Baltimore Colts

 

[Uhsplit]

turnover margin

over their last ten games:
Denver is -1 in turnover margin
Seattle is +14

in all three of their losses, the Broncos lost the turnover battle

74.4% of the teams that won the Super Bowl (35 of 47) also won the turnover battle in the Super Bowl

eight of the 47 Super Bowl winners ended up tying the turnover battle in the Super Bowl

only four of the 47 Super Bowl winners (8.5%) lost the turnover battle in the Super Bowl:
-2005 Steelers
-1988 49ers
-1979 Steelers
-1970 Baltimore Colts

Oh dang, the 05 Steelers. Who'da thought that?

 

[Midnightangel]

Oh dang, the 05 Steelers. Who'da thought that?

Guess you guys should have made us pay more for them.

Your fault.

 

[iknowftbll]

Actually that was zone coverage and isn't the only time someone burned the gap between Sherman on the underside and Thomas over the top. Happened against SF as well. They don't spend much time in full zone, but they have been as vulnerable as most other defenses to passing in the gaps when they do.

There is no doubt Manning will get his yards in. They will score. No one should think Denver will be held to under 20 points no matter what you think of Seattle's defense. It's more about can Seattle score enough to keep up or take the lead. I'm far more interested in the match up between Seattle's offense and Denver's defense. Harvin could be a game changer, but Seattle has committed too many unforced errors that just won't leave them in this game if they continue unless Denver turns the ball over a few times with good field position.

This side of the game is almost lost in the noise surrounding both teams #1 offense and defense respectively. I'm with you, though. I think this will be a very entertaining battle between the Broncos defense and the Seahawks offense.

I'm a little surprised to hear how much hype Harvin is getting, considering his lack of playing time and production in his limited appearances. I doubt the man is game shape. Regardless, the Seattle WRs are a pretty under rated group. And while the Seahawks passing game is not considered a juggernaut, they are good enough to give the Broncos secondary a work out, especially with the way Wilson can scramble and extend plays. On the other hand, the Broncos secondary held much more prolific passers in check in games against the Chargers and Patriots, so they finally seem to be playing some good football.

The big matchup for the Broncos defense will be the run D against Lynch. And the Broncos have a solid run stuffer in Knighton. Furthermore Danny Travethon has emerged as one of the top LBs in the game that nobody is talking about. If the Broncos win the battle in against the Seahawks run game, it'll be a challenge for the Seahawks to win this game. But if the Seahawks are able to play their game on offense, it's back to the drawing board on defense for the Broncos.

The Broncos defense was much maligned, at least ever since the Cowboys game. But anyone who thinks this is the same unit that gave up 500+ yards and 48 points in that week 5 game has not been paying attention. Over the past 4 games, the Broncos defense has actually been as good as any in the game. They've overcome a lot of injuries and personnel moves and are playing their best ball at the right time. As a Broncos fan, this gives me a lot of confidence going into this game. At the same time, I don't fault any Seahawks fan who feels confident in the Seahawks ability to get their offense going in this one.

Broncos offense vs Seahawks defense or Broncos defense vs Seahawks offense...who cares about the statistical rankings. This game is going to be awesome!

 

[ram29jackson]

both defenses allowed the exact same amount of rushing yards

 

[ram29jackson]

post season Seattle has fumbled 5 times and lost 2


Denver 0 for 0

 

[iknowftbll]

post season Seattle has fumbled 5 times and lost 2


Denver 0 for 0

Julius Thomas lost a fumble against the Chargers. A dubious call, as he was sitting on his [Joe Biden] when the ball was stripped, but that was the call nonetheless.

 

[cdumler7]

post season Seattle has fumbled 5 times and lost 2


Denver 0 for 0

Actually broncos fimbled once. It was a very controversial call but it was ruled a fumble.

 

[ram29jackson]

Actually broncos fimbled once. It was a very controversial call but it was ruled a fumble.

NFLs fault,not mine lol

NFL Stats: by Team Category

 

[iknowftbll]

NFLs fault,not mine lol

NFL Stats: by Team Category

Perhaps that stat sheet reflects what should have been called, not what was actually ruled. Eh, the Broncos won anyway, so...

 

[STBR 27]

Perhaps that stat sheet reflects what should have been called, not what was actually ruled. Eh, the Broncos won anyway, so...

They are not correct for Seattle either, Hawks had 0 fumbles against the Saints and 3 against the 49ers, but only lost 1 on the first play of the game.

 

[WizardHawk]

This side of the game is almost lost in the noise surrounding both teams #1 offense and defense respectively. I'm with you, though. I think this will be a very entertaining battle between the Broncos defense and the Seahawks offense.

I'm a little surprised to hear how much hype Harvin is getting, considering his lack of playing time and production in his limited appearances. I doubt the man is game shape. Regardless, the Seattle WRs are a pretty under rated group. And while the Seahawks passing game is not considered a juggernaut, they are good enough to give the Broncos secondary a work out, especially with the way Wilson can scramble and extend plays. On the other hand, the Broncos secondary held much more prolific passers in check in games against the Chargers and Patriots, so they finally seem to be playing some good football.

The big matchup for the Broncos defense will be the run D against Lynch. And the Broncos have a solid run stuffer in Knighton. Furthermore Danny Travethon has emerged as one of the top LBs in the game that nobody is talking about. If the Broncos win the battle in against the Seahawks run game, it'll be a challenge for the Seahawks to win this game. But if the Seahawks are able to play their game on offense, it's back to the drawing board on defense for the Broncos.

The Broncos defense was much maligned, at least ever since the Cowboys game. But anyone who thinks this is the same unit that gave up 500+ yards and 48 points in that week 5 game has not been paying attention. Over the past 4 games, the Broncos defense has actually been as good as any in the game. They've overcome a lot of injuries and personnel moves and are playing their best ball at the right time. As a Broncos fan, this gives me a lot of confidence going into this game. At the same time, I don't fault any Seahawks fan who feels confident in the Seahawks ability to get their offense going in this one.

Broncos offense vs Seahawks defense or Broncos defense vs Seahawks offense...who cares about the statistical rankings. This game is going to be awesome!

Harvin has only been involved in 37 plays this year, but his brief presence had a dynamic impact.

Without Harvin several teams have just tried to force Seattle to beat them through the air and have tried to take the running game completely away. Easier said than done, but there was a stretch were Lynch wasn't getting anywhere near 100y a game. They still won most of them as Wilson has no problems throwing when asked to, they just would rather run it.

With Harvin the defenses have to scheme to cover him no matter where he lines up and he can line up at any position including RB. This forces the LB's to not simply stuff the box for the inside runs and has allowed Lynch to take advantage. For example, in the Saints game they ran a sweep to Harvin fairly early and it didn't really spring for any yards. It did, however, setup the defense to look for it. The next play he lined up to do it again and this time a LB cheated over to cover it and Lynch hit a hole where he ran for 27y.

In addition he commands the attention of the safeties when he is running routes. This has left Tate and Baldwin in single man coverage without over help and has given them better looks at passes.

We don't know how long Harvin will last. I'd expect he will get kickoff duty as well and that could be huge as on a cold day that ball is not going to travel as far and some touches could be possible. Beyond that, whether or not he gets many touches just being on the field will force Denver to change how they defend and that can have a profound impact on the game. At least until he gets hurt again.

 

[Doublejive]

Interesting stat No 1 scoring D's are 12-3 in the SB.

 

[iknowftbll]

Harvin has only been involved in 37 plays this year...

Well, one advantage to that is there is very little film on him. As a Seahawk, that is.

 

[WizardHawk]

Well, one advantage to that is there is very little film on him. As a Seahawk, that is.

Yes, and I'm sure they will take advantage of it. They are normally fairly conservative in their play calling in that they don't do trick plays or really risky plays, but this is the SB. They need to pull out all the stops and do something unexpected and Harvin gives them the perfect weapon to do so even if it is just using him in some exotic decoy play meant to spring Baldwin or Tate.