Sam Bradford v2 - Clearly not a Dink and Dunk...

[SJ76]

When did I say people did?

Why start the thread? Just to argue all day tuesday about a guy that's been injured alot and been average to above average?

 

[CowboyB]

Why start the thread? Just to argue all day tuesday about a guy that's been injured alot and been average to above average?

Because this has been an ongoing argument since his first injury. It won't end until he changes people's minds and that he will.

I will pump my fist in victory.

 

[SJ76]

It's week 1 man.

Because this has been an ongoing argument since his first injury. It won't end until he changes people's minds and that he will.

I will pump my fist in victory.

Then let the season play out, let defenses/offenses get up to speed, and when he finally steps up and makes plays under pressure middle-late season and leads his team into the playoffs... Week 1 isn't a good indication for a QB like him. He's barely made it through a full season consistently. After all that, then you start this thread or your old one up. Plenty of people will step up and say "wow he actually did it".


But until then, I'm not sure what you can expect here at tHoop and not much you can do about it.

 

[fordman84]

You strike me as someone having a terrible memory from a thread filled with people saying Bradford sucks and someone who thinks I actually give a fuck if some fuck wads on the internet respect me and my opinion.

I remember a lot of people saying the trade sucked.

 

[CowboyB]

I remember a lot of people saying the trade sucked.

I do too and the reasoning was often because Bradford sucks.

 

[CowboyB]

It's week 1 man.




Then let the season play out, let defenses/offenses get up to speed, and when he finally steps up and makes plays under pressure middle-late season and leads his team into the playoffs... Week 1 isn't a good indication for a QB like him. He's barely made it through a full season consistently. After all that, then you start this thread or your old one up. Plenty of people will step up and say "wow he actually did it".


But until then, I'm not sure what you can expect here at tHoop and not much you can do about it.

I am not stopping the season from playing out. I actually have no control of that. But I will discuss things a long the way. Get it?

 

[SJ76]

I am not stopping the season from playing out. I actually have no control of that. But I will discuss things a long the way. Get it?

Discussing how Bradford doesn't suck. Have at it champ

 

[rmilia1]

People often confuse the lack of doing something with the inability to do that thing . Many teams offenses are designed to capitalize on the short passing game. That doesn't mean the QBS in that system can't throw downfield

 

[CowboyB]

People often confuse the lack of doing something with the inability to do that thing . Many teams offenses are designed to capitalize on the short passing game. That doesn't mean the QBS in that system can't throw downfield

This. They had no offensive line last year so he took what he could get. HE was 8/8 for 20+yard passes last night.

Bradford's arm strength has NEVER been an issue until a bunch of fans / experts who have spent his whole career hating on him had to search from something in his stat line to harp on.

 

[packerzrule]

I remember a lot of people saying the trade sucked.

many of the posts I read was people whom were disagreeing that he was worth a 1st round draft pick, not so much that he sucks

 

[Wishbone]

Bradford is finally not getting killed and running for his life every play. If he has time hes as good as anyone.

 

[CowboyB]

many of the posts I read was people whom were disagreeing that he was worth a 1st round draft pick, not so much that he sucks

And those people are wrong too.

Sam Bradford will be considered an elite QB in 3 years.

 

[megalodon30]

Sam Bradford will be considered an elite QB in 3 years.

If you're not an elite QB within the first 4 years of your career, you ain't ever gonna be elite.

 

[CowboyB]

If you're not an elite QB within the first 4 years of your career, you ain't ever gonna be elite.

This statement tells me you are not much older than 18 are you simply don't know anything about football.

 

[megalodon30]

This statement tells me you are not much older than 18 are you simply don't know anything about football.

Or your definition of an "elite" QB is far too broad.

 

[CowboyB]

Or your definition of an "elite" QB is far too broad.

What would you consider an Elite QB?

 

[megalodon30]

What would you consider an Elite QB?

The best QB in the league. A guy that is gonna have you a SB contender and be an MVP candidate. If you think Bradford can be that guy, I think you may need to watch him play the position. He's not bad, but he's also not great. And he's certainly not gonna ever be elite.

 

[CowboyB]

The best QB in the league. A guy that is gonna have you a SB contender and be an MVP candidate. If you think Bradford can be that guy, I think you may need to watch him play the position. He's not bad, but he's also not great. And he's certainly not gonna ever be elite.

Have you ever heard of John Elway?

 

[megalodon30]

Have you ever heard of John Elway?

He won a SB, didn't he? Last I checked, Bradford hasn't even made the playoffs.

 

[CowboyB]

He won a SB, didn't he? Last I checked, Bradford hasn't even made the playoffs.

So according to your definition John Elway wasn't Elite until really late in his career. Elway was pretty shitty early on in his career during his playoff performances. And you just said if a QB isn't considered elite in their 1st 4 years they never will be.

Have you ever heard of Rich Gannon by chance?? Kurt Warner??

It's not's Bradford's fault he was drafted by the St. Louis Rams