Royals > your shitty dogshit excuse for a team

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Both teams were wrong. Umps definitely didnt handle it right. Lawrie started it with his slide Friday night, knocking out Escobar for the rest of the series. Look at the slide and it's questionable at best. Maybe not dirty, but reckless.

Ventura took care of it Saturday night by hitting Lawrie, and was promptly ejected with no warnings.

Kazmir starts the game by hitting Cain. Umps decided it was accidental, yet still get warnings to both teams. While Cain is on the ground, Kazmir walks to the plate while staring at Cain, so he can "get the ball from the catcher". If you think it's an accident, why give warnings? If KC retaliates, then issue warnings. Then Yost and Eiland get booted after coming out onto the field despite the umpire telling them not to. Yost wanted to discuss it, ump said "fuck no,stay there."

Later in the game, Herrera throws inside to Lawrie, then behind him on the next pitch. then points He is ejected.

Oakland vows revenge in Oakland.

I did see the slide and do not think it was dirty. I don't think there was any need for "retaliation" to it. If that's what it was all about and your accounting of events is correct, it seems to me that the Royals were the ones to blame.

 

[chappee11]

It's not understanding / caring about all of the facts

How many games would Herrera have gotten if he had actually hit Lawrie? 80?

Definitely more if he had hit him. You can't be throwing at guys' heads on purpose. Herrera was trying to kill the guy.

You think Kazmir should have been suspended??

 

[chappee11]

I thought FN was "Frontal Nudity".

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

If you think it's an accident, why give warnings?

Maybe the umps were thinking that the Royals had a track record of retaliating when it wasn't warranted (the Lowrie slide), and wanted to nip it in the bud.

 

[Davis_Mike]

He got 5 games. A little light in my opinion.

 

[chappee11]

Hi chappee.

Hi Cereal. It's me Chappee.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Lawrie's slide was dirty. No doubt about it.

There's a fair amount of folks that disagree. I'm one of them.

 

[Rock Strongo]

francis, i told dirt, scal, ox, and pickles you said the pats have the greatest franchise in NFL history.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

I thought FN was "Frontal Nudity".

I thought it was no static at all.

 

[Davis_Mike]

If you start the slide before you reach the base, you can reach the opposite side of the base, & your spikes are shin level or lower, then the slide is fine.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

He got 5 games. A little light in my opinion.

Lol... Look up precedent.

 

[Mondo Jay]

There's a fair amount of folks that disagree. I'm one of them.

Agreed. We were always taught to put the fear of God into middle infielders when breaking up the double play. Doing so earned the respect of your teammates. You expected the opposition to do the same. I've seen that same slide many, many times without all the bean ball BS.

 

[cerealboi]

There's a fair amount of folks that disagree. I'm one of them.

You're right. Baseball is all about hindsight. Escobar doesn't tweak his knee, then Lawrie is viewed as making a good hard slide to break up the DP. As a pitcher, you plunk a batter (regardless of where) and he just shakes it off - no big deal, that's part of the game. You plunk a batter and injure him, then it becomes "dirty".

 

[Itsmytime]

You're right. Baseball is all about hindsight. Escobar doesn't tweak his knee, then Lawrie is viewed as making a good hard slide to break up the DP. As a pitcher, you plunk a batter (regardless of where) and he just shakes it off - no big deal, that's part of the game. You plunk a batter and injure him, then it becomes "dirty".

FINALLY! I've been trying to say that for the past few days.

 

[chappee11]

There's a fair amount of folks that disagree. I'm one of them.

I think Lawrie has a reputation of being a prick anyway. I think that probably helped sway my opinion.

 

[Indrid Cold]

Agreed. We were always taught to put the fear of God into middle infielders when breaking up the double play. Doing so earned the respect of your teammates. You expected the opposition to do the same. I've seen that same slide many, many times without all the bean ball BS.

That was before MLB became a game played by multimillionaires who are really on the same team (union).

 

[Mondo Jay]

That was before MLB became a game played by multimillionaires who are really on the same team (union).

...and yet guys are throwing at the heads of their fellow union brethren.

 

[Indrid Cold]

...and yet guys are throwing at the heads of their fellow union brethren.

The "code" was broken with the hard slide...if you appear to threaten one guy's lucrative career, then yours will be threatened.

 

[Rock Strongo]

I think Lawrie has a reputation of being a prick anyway. I think that probably helped sway my opinion.

or just a douchbag

 

[chappee11]

or just a douchbag

Yes. Douchebag is probably more accurate. I remember when he was on TOR and the Jays were losing in NY by like 8 runs. Lawrie hit a double and celebrated like he had just won the World Series. He's a douche, for sure.