Riley Reiff at Left Tackle

[Coach_Ed_LPW]

1. Reiff didn't get a 'ton of snaps' -- he'd be brought in for a series or two a game.

2. Reiff lined up as a TE and a lot of the time he was put in motion.

3. The overwhelming majority of the time, the Lions ran the ball whenever he was in the game, so he could double the DE or pick off a LB in the second level.

While he got a couple snaps a game and is listed as starting 8 games -- he really only had one game of actual experience at the LT position.

My biggest issue with Reiff is the fact he never took over a spot on the offensive line last year, even when the Lions were out of the playoff race. If he was even comparable to what the Lions had last year -- He would have been inserted into the starting lineup, just for the experience alone.

Another stupid post. Reiff played a heck of alot more than 2 snaps a game.

 

[Rob]

I disagree that a #21 overall selection should start immediately. Reiff's lack of playing in 2012 can't lead to any sort of conclusion about his ability. We had two good veterans ahead of him on the depth chart. Reiff got a ton of experience in 2012. He now knows the speed of the NFL game. He held his own when Backus went down and was an effective run blocker all year long. Reiff will be the left tackle next season and that will tell us something definitive about his ability. Lets not kill the guy until he actually sucks.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Another stupid post. Reiff played a heck of alot more than 2 snaps a game.

For someone whose screen name says he is a coach -- I'd think you would understand the difference between 1 or 2 snaps and 1 or 2 SERIES (which is what I said)

 

[Coach_Ed_LPW]

For someone whose screen name says he is a coach -- I'd think you would understand the difference between 1 or 2 snaps and 1 or 2 SERIES (which is what I said)

Either way youre still wrong. In the Jacksonville game Reiff played in every single series of the game. 71 eligible over and over.

 

[Coach_Ed_LPW]

MDIAF

 

[broncosmitty]

I'd assume Reiff was 8th or 9th on the team as far as snaps played. Maybe 10th, but he saw a fair amount of game action, even if you want to piss and moan and split hairs about it. Enough that I'm not concerned he'll be lost out there. It's not like he wasn't blocking EVERY SINGLE PLAY he was in there.

 

[Coach_Ed_LPW]

I personally think it was a smart move using Rieff the way the did last year. They allowed him to shadow Backus, learning from an ironman how to prepare for the season and play his position. Getting a chance to watch and study from the sideline while still getting enough snaps to acclimate himself to the NFL. It should reduce the chances of Stafford getting killed by a Reiff mistake.

 

[tpaulus_2]

1. Reiff didn't get a 'ton of snaps' -- he'd be brought in for a series or two a game.

2. Reiff lined up as a TE and a lot of the time he was put in motion.

3. The overwhelming majority of the time, the Lions ran the ball whenever he was in the game, so he could double the DE or pick off a LB in the second level.

While he got a couple snaps a game and is listed as starting 8 games -- he really only had one game of actual experience at the LT position.

My biggest issue with Reiff is the fact he never took over a spot on the offensive line last year, even when the Lions were out of the playoff race. If he was even comparable to what the Lions had last year -- He would have been inserted into the starting lineup, just for the experience alone.

I don't know what you were watching, but I'm starting to suspect it was only highlights.

He played a helluva lot more than a series or two a game.

And you can call him a TE all you want, but he was an extra tackle. How many passes were thrown at him? He subbed in for a TE, but he definitely didn't play TE while he was out there. TEs run routes at least once in a while, and they catch passes. Reiff was brought in to block, nothing more. That makes him a 6th lineman in my book...

 

[tpaulus_2]

I disagree that a #21 overall selection should start immediately. Reiff's lack of playing in 2012 can't lead to any sort of conclusion about his ability. We had two good veterans ahead of him on the depth chart. Reiff got a ton of experience in 2012. He now knows the speed of the NFL game. He held his own when Backus went down and was an effective run blocker all year long. Reiff will be the left tackle next season and that will tell us something definitive about his ability. Lets not kill the guy until he actually sucks.

Thank you. Totally agree...

 

[tpaulus_2]

I personally think it was a smart move using Rieff the way the did last year. They allowed him to shadow Backus, learning from an ironman how to prepare for the season and play his position. Getting a chance to watch and study from the sideline while still getting enough snaps to acclimate himself to the NFL. It should reduce the chances of Stafford getting killed by a Reiff mistake.

Yerp. I agree with this too.

Sure starting to feel more like home in here... the gloves are finally coming off, lol

 

[RobBase]

Sure starting to feel more like home in here... the gloves are finally coming off, lol

 

[tpaulus_2]

Hahaha... I thought you'd put up one of Smitty's p o r n clips there for a second...

 

[tpaulus_2]

And I had to space that out because that's pretty much the only word we can't say on here.

Shit, fuck, ass, ect... all work, but **** does not.

The moderators said it's to keep spamming down, or something like that. I can live without being able to say **** on here, especially since we can drop f-bombs like real adults without getting banned.

Sportshoopla > CBS by like a billion so far!

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

I don't know what you were watching, but I'm starting to suspect it was only highlights.

He played a helluva lot more than a series or two a game.

And you can call him a TE all you want, but he was an extra tackle. How many passes were thrown at him? He subbed in for a TE, but he definitely didn't play TE while he was out there. TEs run routes at least once in a while, and they catch passes. Reiff was brought in to block, nothing more. That makes him a 6th lineman in my book...

The Lions ran the ball roughly 20 times a game, when you take out the runs by the WRs and Stafford. Contrary to the belief of many on here -- Reiff was not in the game for all these carries. My guesstimate would be, if you looked at his time played once they started using him at TE (which is what they did, even if you refuse to admit this) -- It would break down to 1 or 2 series a game.

When a team throws the ball 700+ times in a season -- they aren't using the "jumbo set" as often as you guys seem to think.

And those who think putting him in as a blocking TE gave him the experience needed to be ready for the season are kidding themselves. He gained more experience in his 1 start at LT than he got in all of his plays combined he played as the blocking TE/extra lineman.

 

[RobBase]

Detroit Lions' offensive and defensive snap counts for the 2012 season | MLive.com

Reiff played 326 snaps last season (compared to 1199 for the rest of the starters) and started one game at LT (vs. the Texans).

 

[uofmarmyguy]

Funny you say this. Back when Parcells drafted Jake Long I was telling anyone who would listen what a mistake it was passing on Matt Ryan (as part of the Pro-Stafford crowd the next year vs. the Jason Smith crowd who were mesmerized by Parcells Jake Long pick the year before). The main argument against me was "I'm sure Bill Parcells knows what he is doing!"

5 years later, Jake Long is injured, overrated and playing in St. Louis and Miami is rebuilding with a new (far crappier) QB, while Matt Ryan is taking the Falcons to the playoffs every year.

So ya, I totally agree with you. Thing is, Mayhew has yet to botch any 1st round picks. It's after the 1st round where fans should be worried.

I will somewhat agree, except as far as overall team remember Atlanta had a great team but this was the post Vick year so horrid QB is main reason for their record. So Matty Ice walked into good team which was made better by more good moves. Long was All-Pro for 3-4 years so you cannot say he is a bust. But cap and injuries equals expendability.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Reiff played 326 snaps last season (compared to 1199 for the rest of the starters) and started one game at LT (vs. the Texans).

And 89 of the 326 snaps came in one game against the Texans.

 

[Old Lion]

Thats a stupid fucking post muzzer.

Can I get a dime for every time someone says this?

I could retire before the season starts and maybe finally make it to a season opener.

 

[Microwahevo]

My biggest issue with Reiff is the fact he never took over a spot on the offensive line last year, even when the Lions were out of the playoff race. If he was even comparable to what the Lions had last year

. Why take issue with Reiff? He did absolutely nothing wrong last year. Maybe u should take issue with Schwartz and co. for not playing him. It's hardly Reiff's fault. That's completely asinine. I guess some people will never be happy with any LT we have.

 

[tpaulus_2]

The Lions ran the ball roughly 20 times a game, when you take out the runs by the WRs and Stafford. Contrary to the belief of many on here -- Reiff was not in the game for all these carries. My guesstimate would be, if you looked at his time played once they started using him at TE (which is what they did, even if you refuse to admit this) -- It would break down to 1 or 2 series a game.

When a team throws the ball 700+ times in a season -- they aren't using the "jumbo set" as often as you guys seem to think.

And those who think putting him in as a blocking TE gave him the experience needed to be ready for the season are kidding themselves. He gained more experience in his 1 start at LT than he got in all of his plays combined he played as the blocking TE/extra lineman.

First off, he wasn't only in on running plays- we passed a fair amount out of that jumbo set. Otherwise it would have been way too obvious that we were running it.

Which brings me to my second point- you say he was a TE, but when we passed out of the jumbo he was an extra pass blocker. I can't recall him running a single route. Maybe you're too stuck inside the box and feel the need to label him as a TE because he replaced a TE when he came in, but he blocked and only blocked. That's an o-lineman in my book. Other teams, particularly San Fran and New Orleans use the jumbo set quite a bit with an extra o-lineman subbing for the TE, so it's not like we were doing some novel thing experimenting with Reiff as a TE. The jumbo package just uses 6 linemen instead of 5. What's so hard to get about that?

I think you're remembering things in the way that's most convenient for your argument. As for his position- call him a TE if you want, but all he did was block, so, in my book, that's o-line experience...