Rex Ryan

[Duffman]

If Del Rio gets poached and takes a HC job what does everyone think about bringing him in as our new DC? He's always been a great defensive coach and I think with our talent he can put together a really dominant defense.

 

[DownSetHutch]

I think someone already mentioned him as who they want for a possible DC next year.

If Del Rio moves on, and Rex Ryan becomes a candidate for DC, count me in the "yea" group. I would be all for it.

That could be a hot topic for the off-season, but I'm all about the playoffs right now.

 

[Broncos6482]

I'd love to bring in Ryan. In fact, I'd like to see the Broncos bring him in now, much like the Patriots did with McDaniels a few years ago. He always seems to give Brady fits, and since there's a good chance we'll see the Patriots in the playoffs I think he could be a big help.

 

[Carnzo]

I think Rex would be a great commentator, better than in Denver (Said the Patriots homer).

 

[MrDoc420]

I'd be into trying to get him here. Has Del Rio been talked about as being targeted for a HC job? That convo was wild last year, but I haven't heard so much of it this year.

 

[iknowftbll]

I'd be into trying to get him here. Has Del Rio been talked about as being targeted for a HC job? That convo was wild last year, but I haven't heard so much of it this year.

I'd be surprised if Del Rio was in the HC conversation for any job. The Broncos defense is solid, but "solid" for the talent level of this unit does not reflect positively on the DC. JDR underperformed this year. Then again, I should not judge until the season is complete.

 

[cdumler7]

Del Rio actually has been on most top-10 Head Coaching candidate lists that I have seen. Same with Gase. Both are expected to actually go interview during this break. Not a fan of that happening but they do have the right to do that. Anyway there is talk that Oakland will be at the top of the list for him. He is a Bay Area guy, has some connections with Mark Davis (he actually came down on the field to talk to Del Rio before the game this past Sunday), and finally Del Rio is actually a very well respected man around the NFL.


I would also say when it comes to Del Rio he has in his 3 years with the Broncos coached 2 top-5 defenses. We might not always like the way he does things but for the most part he actually has done pretty good.


As to the actual conversation...I said weeks ago when rumors were floating around about Rex Ryan getting fired that he would be at the top of my list of guys I would love to bring in. He knows how to coach defense. Everywhere he goes defenses seem to flourish and with this group of talented players I think we would be in the conversation for best defense in the NFL. Throw in he is one of the few coaches that seems to give Brady and the Patriots fits. As Broncos6482 said I would be working to get him in for the playoffs. Pull a Belichick I guess you could say.

 

[iknowftbll]

^ I've heard the same about Del Rio and the Raiders, but haven't seen any credible sources. Not that I've looked, either. Interesting how our AFC West rivals keep raiding our DCs and OCs and the Broncos still annihilate them!

 

[Broncos6482]

I'd be surprised if Del Rio was in the HC conversation for any job. The Broncos defense is solid, but "solid" for the talent level of this unit does not reflect positively on the DC. JDR underperformed this year. Then again, I should not judge until the season is complete.

The Broncos defense is much better than solid. They finished the year 2nd against the run, 9th against the pass, and 3rd overall. They led the NFL in forced 3 and outs. They were second in yards per play allowed (4.7 to Seattle's 4.6). They were 5th in third down percentage.

They were basically a top 5 defense across the board, with the exception of points allowed (where they came in 16th at 22.1). Now I know a lot of you are going to say that points allowed is the only stat that matters, and I agree with you to an extent. However, not all of those points can be blamed on the defense (turnovers by the offense and horrible special teams coverage contributed to a large number of those points) and some of those points were also allowed in garbage time. I can't take the time to break all of that down, but my guess is that if someone were to do that, they'd find the Broncos defense in the top 10 of points allowed.

Seems to me that the Broncos defense really has only one glaring achilles heel, and that's covering the tight end. Tight ends have killed us for years and we just don't seem to have an answer for that. I think that's tough to blame on the scheme (since it seems we've tried everything and everyone) and more on the personnel (we just don't have the players capable of taking a good tight end out of the game).

 

[cdumler7]

^ I've heard the same about Del Rio and the Raiders, but haven't seen any credible sources. Not that I've looked, either. Interesting how our AFC West rivals keep raiding our DCs and OCs and the Broncos still annihilate them!

Well I know ESPN has reported that he would be a favorite for the Oakland job. Never sure how much to trust ESPN to actually print anything of credible material but I have seen his name pop up quite a few places linked to Oakland so my guess where there is smoke there is fire. I would be a bit surprised in the idea that they would after just firing a guy that was the DC for the Broncos then go and do the exact same thing again. I wouldn't mind it though. I don't mind Del Rio and think he is a decent coach but I see him more as a .500 type coach. He can get you to being competitive like he did with the Jaguars but isn't the guy that can get you over the hump. So yeah wouldn't mind him going to Oakland one bit.

 

[Mondo Jay]

I would think Rex would be attractive as a HC somewhere.

 

[cdumler7]

I would think Rex would be attractive as a HC somewhere.

My guess is he takes a head coaching job but I could also see him decide he wants to take a year or two and just get back to his roots and coach defense. Del Rio did that very thing with the Broncos. There was talk that he could have been a head coaching candidate even after getting fired from Jacksonville because he is so respected around the NFL.

 

[cdumler7]

The Broncos defense is much better than solid. They finished the year 2nd against the run, 9th against the pass, and 3rd overall. They led the NFL in forced 3 and outs. They were second in yards per play allowed (4.7 to Seattle's 4.6). They were 5th in third down percentage.

They were basically a top 5 defense across the board, with the exception of points allowed (where they came in 16th at 22.1). Now I know a lot of you are going to say that points allowed is the only stat that matters, and I agree with you to an extent. However, not all of those points can be blamed on the defense (turnovers by the offense and horrible special teams coverage contributed to a large number of those points) and some of those points were also allowed in garbage time. I can't take the time to break all of that down, but my guess is that if someone were to do that, they'd find the Broncos defense in the top 10 of points allowed.

Seems to me that the Broncos defense really has only one glaring achilles heel, and that's covering the tight end. Tight ends have killed us for years and we just don't seem to have an answer for that. I think that's tough to blame on the scheme (since it seems we've tried everything and everyone) and more on the personnel (we just don't have the players capable of taking a good tight end out of the game).

Our defense does get a bit of a bad rep. The big issue that I see with our defense though is we either dominate for most of a game or we get annihilated on defense. We just don't seem to be able to make the adjustments when things are not working. Such as the Bengals game where they were running that zone read crap. They just kept doing it daring the Broncos to try and stop it. About the only thing that stopped it was the Bengals fumbling when they were getting ready to score. So while I do like most of what Del Rio has done with this defense, there are still some glaring weaknesses that might cost us come playoff time.

 

[Broncosr0k]

My only concern with Rex Ryan being the DC is that he likes a 3-4 base. Some current players would excel in a 3-4 and others would struggle.

 

[MileHigh64]

I've been reading in several places online today that Rex has made it clear that he'll only take a head coach gig OR broadcasting. He's reportedly said that he's not interested in a coordinator position.

 

[Malibu]

J.D.R. as a head coach again would be very desperate by any team. Lets see how the playoffs go before I buy in to that. Rex Ryan I agree give him a call now and give J.D.R. some ideas if Denver plays the Patriots again. Couldn't hurt. Just saying.

 

[cdumler7]

J.D.R. as a head coach again would be very desperate by any team. Lets see how the playoffs go before I buy in to that. Rex Ryan I agree give him a call now and give J.D.R. some ideas if Denver plays the Patriots again. Couldn't hurt. Just saying.

You really dislike Del Rio but I can promise you around the NFL he truly is one of the most respected defensive minds around. It would not be a desperate move if he were to be hired. Heck he was actually able to take the Jaguars to the playoffs twice in his time with them and finish with a .500 record or better 5 of the 9 years he was with the team.

Also you have to remember the Broncos have had a very nice run of young linebackers succeeding with Del Rio at the helm. Do you think that is by accident considering how great of a linebacker he was when playing? The guy knows how to coach up players and most of his defenses finish the season in the top-10. So while you might not like some of his decisions he has a long list of success especially on the defensive side of the ball.

 

[iknowftbll]

The Broncos defense is much better than solid. They finished the year 2nd against the run, 9th against the pass, and 3rd overall. They led the NFL in forced 3 and outs. They were second in yards per play allowed (4.7 to Seattle's 4.6). They were 5th in third down percentage.

They were basically a top 5 defense across the board, with the exception of points allowed (where they came in 16th at 22.1). Now I know a lot of you are going to say that points allowed is the only stat that matters, and I agree with you to an extent. However, not all of those points can be blamed on the defense (turnovers by the offense and horrible special teams coverage contributed to a large number of those points) and some of those points were also allowed in garbage time. I can't take the time to break all of that down, but my guess is that if someone were to do that, they'd find the Broncos defense in the top 10 of points allowed.

Seems to me that the Broncos defense really has only one glaring achilles heel, and that's covering the tight end. Tight ends have killed us for years and we just don't seem to have an answer for that. I think that's tough to blame on the scheme (since it seems we've tried everything and everyone) and more on the personnel (we just don't have the players capable of taking a good tight end out of the game).

The defense is just solid in my mind because it failed to consistently dominate opponents. I think the stretch beginning with the second half of the Dolphins game and carrying on until the Bengals game was a good stretch, but a season is 16 games, not 3 and a half.

Also, I am aware of the scoring issue as well. Depending on how you measure "garbage time" the Broncos are well into the 60s in garbage points allowed. When you add in flukey plays and scores off of turnovers that number gets even higher, (perhaps into the 90s) which in turn makes the defense look a lot better if you filter those scores out. The frequent garbage points allowed did start to bother me, but only because of what we saw and already discussed following the Bills game. A game the Broncos dominated all the way though should not have come down to an on-side attempt to seal it. There is something wrong with that. When you factor the flukey plays, or big special teams plays, one can only conclude this: it's always something. The Broncos can't keep opponents scoring down. Before the season started I remember saying a good goal for the team is to allow no more than 20 PPG through the season. That would be a total of 320 points on the season. The team is at 354, which translates to a tick over 22 PPG. I would have liked to see that number lower.

Still, it is a defense CAPABLE of dominating. It hasn't done so consistently, but we know the potential is there. I hope JDR goes all in on being aggressive when the playoffs begin, because some of our best games have been when JDR has gotten aggressive.

 

[randymon]

I've been reading in several places online today that Rex has made it clear that he'll only take a head coach gig OR broadcasting. He's reportedly said that he's not interested in a coordinator position.[/QUOTE

Finally,somebody heard Rex address his firing probability and his future plans about 2 days ago. None were any position other than HC or possibly broadcast stint. He said he still believed he will win a SB as a HC. You can throw out any DC talk.

 

[cdumler7]

I've been reading in several places online today that Rex has made it clear that he'll only take a head coach gig OR broadcasting. He's reportedly said that he's not interested in a coordinator position.[/QUOTE

Finally,somebody heard Rex address his firing probability and his future plans about 2 days ago. None were any position other than HC or possibly broadcast stint. He said he still believed he will win a SB as a HC. You can throw out any DC talk.

It is nice speculation at this time but you are right there is maybe a 2% chance that he would ever take a DC job this year. Now he still can though come on as a consultant with the Broncos. That is why I give it a small chance for next year in say he does come here as a consultant then Del Rio gets the job with the Raiders or whoever and say Sexy Rexy liked what he saw here in Denver and decides to stay on. Now that is a very far fetched situation so very very small chance that would ever happen.