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I wish Bryce Harper was on the team.
 

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I think we are noticeably stronger than last year, and I think that StL is looking a little weaker than last year. Throw in the fact that we have home field. 3-1 LA

Agreed. Kemp is peaking at the perfect time (September N.L. Player of the Month) and it's making everyone else in the lineup better. I think Gonzo is going to feast against the Cards this time around.

And the Cards don't have a Beltran anymore. You can essentially pitch around Holliday and Molina and be in pretty good shape. I know Adams put up some solid numbers, but I don't think the Dodger pitchers need to sweat him too much, especially Kershaw.

I like the Dodgers 3-1.
 

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You know, Los Angeles is Spanish, bro?
And Dodgers is English and the team has an extensive history.

I thought the Dodgers should've been very, very slight favorites last year and the Cardinals were able to edge them out despite some very poor hitting at times. This year, its the Dodgers series to lose but the Cardinals aren't going to beat themselves. Cards need to get to Kershaw...the whole dynamics of the series would change if they can do that with Ryu being a little banged up.
 

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Go Dodgers!!
 

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I see a split at home. But with Ryu/Haren in St. Louis, I see two losses. Prediction: 3-1 Cards

The only way we win series is if we win the first two.
 

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Lackey-Ryu is an interesting matchup on both sides. Both might be better than people think
 

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I see a split at home. But with Ryu/Haren in St. Louis, I see two losses. Prediction: 3-1 Cards

The only way we win series is if we win the first two.

man, you're so pessimistic. and, if we get down 2-1, Kershaw is going to pitch game 4 on short rest.
 

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man, you're so pessimistic. and, if we get down 2-1, Kershaw is going to pitch game 4 on short rest.

I don't like Kershaw pitching on short rest in Game 4. It just burns him for the next series if they advance and we know Kershaw has never pitched all that well across the entire playoffs.
 

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And Dodgers is English and the team has an extensive history.
Yeah. Whatever.


I thought the Dodgers should've been very, very slight favorites last year and the Cardinals were able to edge them out despite some very poor hitting at times. This year, its the Dodgers series to lose but the Cardinals aren't going to beat themselves. Cards need to get to Kershaw...the whole dynamics of the series would change if they can do that with Ryu being a little banged up.

Cards are a fundamentally sound team. Huge advantage. Know situations and perform when they need to.
 

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I don't like Kershaw pitching on short rest in Game 4. It just burns him for the next series if they advance and we know Kershaw has never pitched all that well across the entire playoffs.

well if we don't get to the next series, then it doesn't matter, does it?

and Kershaw has pitched fine in the playoffs, last year he had 3 great starts and 1 bad start, seems people only recall the bad start.
 

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well if we don't get to the next series, then it doesn't matter, does it?

and Kershaw has pitched fine in the playoffs, last year he had 3 great starts and 1 bad start, seems people only recall the bad start.

Hershiser did not have a bad start in '88. That's how Workd Series are won.
 

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Hershiser did not have a bad start in '88. That's how Workd Series are won.

News Flash: No one else is saying that Kershaw needs to go out and pitch like a 30 year old Hershiser in 1988. It's pretty doubtful that anyone this postseason is going to pitch like '88 Hershiser.
 

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News Flash: No one else is saying that Kershaw needs to go out and pitch like a 30 year old Hershiser in 1988. It's pretty doubtful that anyone this postseason is going to pitch like '88 Hershiser.

Exactly. So with a suspect three man rotation and an inconsistent bullpen, my prediction is not unreasonable. All I'm saying....
 

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Haren will not even pitch in this series, unless Don is really that stupid. A short rested Kershaw is far better than Haren at any level.
 

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Exactly. So with a suspect three man rotation and an inconsistent bullpen, my prediction is not unreasonable. All I'm saying....

A suspect 3 man rotation? Only Washington has a better 3 man rotation than LA.

Kershaw 21-3 1.77 v. Waino 20-9 2.38
Greinke 17-8 2.71 v. Lynn 15-10 2.74
Ryu 14-7 3.38 v. Lackey 14-10 3.82

I'll give you the inconsistent bullpen all day. But even there, LA's bullpen ERA is 3.80 and StL's is 3.62. I have to give the edge in pitching to LA.

Hitting, LA leads StL in every category, and it's not even close.
 

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A suspect 3 man rotation? Only Washington has a better 3 man rotation than LA.

Kershaw 21-3 1.77 v. Waino 20-9 2.38
Greinke 17-8 2.71 v. Lynn 15-10 2.74
Ryu 14-7 3.38 v. Lackey 14-10 3.82

I'll give you the inconsistent bullpen all day. But even there, LA's bullpen ERA is 3.80 and StL's is 3.62. I have to give the edge in pitching to LA.

Hitting, LA leads StL in every category, and it's not even close.

Ryu has yet to be cleared, a big "if" right now. I think he'll go, but can he be effective?
 

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Ryu has yet to be cleared, a big "if" right now. I think he'll go, but can he be effective?

Who knows if anyone will be effective for either team. He threw a simulated game yesterday (45 pitches) used all his pitches and looked good, according to reports. He had the same injury in May and came back to win 4 in a row giving up just over 2 runs per outing.

All things considered, he's a solid 3 guy in the rotation. Hell, Lackey is only 3-3 with a 4.30 ERA since joining StL. Might there also be a legit concern of his effectiveness?
 

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Who knows if anyone will be effective for either team. He threw a simulated game yesterday (45 pitches) used all his pitches and looked good, according to reports. He had the same injury in May and came back to win 4 in a row giving up just over 2 runs per outing.

All things considered, he's a solid 3 guy in the rotation. Hell, Lackey is only 3-3 with a 4.30 ERA since joining StL. Might there also be a legit concern of his effectiveness?

Wacha being unable to go is a boost. We were his bitch last year. Absolutely legit concern there too. But the Dodgers completely shit the bed offensively against the Cardinals. They should feast on lackey
 

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Ryu a go for game 3
 
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