Records / Stats

[CrashDavisSports]

This is what we are looking forward to this week with probably nothing really on the line...

If Burrow, Chase and Higgins can get these numbers:

Burrow 29 for 40, 359 yards, 3TD's and 0 INT's
Chase 8 for 138 yards and 2 TD's
Higgins 11 for 142 and no TD's

They will have these season numbers:

Burrow 70% completion percentage for 5000 yards passing, 45 passing TD's, and will push his streak of 250+ yards / 3TD's to 9 games (all will be Bengals records)
Chase will have 125 catches for 1750 yards and 18 TD's (all will be Bengals records)
Higgins will have 80 catches for 1000 yards and 10 TD's

That is one hell of a successful season for these three.

 

[cincygrad]

This is what we are looking forward to this week with probably nothing really on the line...

If Burrow, Chase and Higgins can get these numbers:

Burrow 29 for 40, 359 yards, 3TD's and 0 INT's
Chase 8 for 138 yards and 2 TD's
Higgins 11 for 142 and no TD's

They will have these season numbers:

Burrow 70% completion percentage for 5000 yards passing, 45 passing TD's, and will push his streak of 250+ yards / 3TD's to 9 games (all will be Bengals records)
Chase will have 125 catches for 1750 yards and 18 TD's (all will be Bengals records)
Higgins will have 80 catches for 1000 yards and 10 TD's

That is one hell of a successful season for these three.

If I were to give you those numbers back in August, what would you figure our record would be? You'd have to figure 11-5 at the worst, right? I'd say 13-3 right now with those numbers. Back in August the biggest question for the Bengals was whether Burrow would be healthy enough to put up good passing numbers. I don't think anyone figured the D would be top 10, but I also don't think anyone assumed it would be historically bad. Such a strange, wasted season.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Really would be cool for Chase to get the triple crown of receiving.

If Chase finishes the regular season as the leader in all three categories, he'll be the fifth player since 1970 to do so, joining the Los Angeles Rams' Cooper Kupp in 2021, the Carolina Panthers' Steve Smith in 2005, the San Francisco 49ers' Jerry Rice in 1990 and the Green Bay Packers' Sterling Sharpe in 1992.

That would be pretty rare air.

 

[DanBengalfan]

no doubt we surely have talented players. if not for the early season slothfulness among other things, we'd be in the playoffs for sure.

 

[Cincyfan78]

No surprise: Chase, Burrow, Trey all named to the Pro-bowl - which Chase and Trey as starters.

Brown 2nd alternate - if he had started all year, it would have been interesting to see where he would have landed.

Orlando Brown Jr - 4th alternate.

 

[DanBengalfan]

No surprise: Chase, Burrow, Trey all named to the Pro-bowl - which Chase and Trey as starters.

Brown 2nd alternate - if he had started all year, it would have been interesting to see where he would have landed.

Orlando Brown Jr - 4th alternate.

yea... our coaches decision to start zach moss over Brown is proof that they don't understand what the hell is going on.

 

[Cincyfan78]

yea... our coaches decision to start zach moss over Brown is proof that they don't understand what the hell is going on.

I think what it points to - and this has been an MO under Taylor - is a long string for guys with "experience" or "their guy" when it's pretty obvious that the player isn't all that great.

We can talk about Moss/Brown, but this also goes towards a few other players. Pretty clear last year that Scott was abysmal. Took most of the year to finally see him benched. We watched this year as Bell came in and replaced Battle, who did play well last year. He wasn't good. Battle took a bit to get going, but has been one of the better graded Safeties over the last 4-5 weeks. We can look at Volston who has just been abjectly bad at IOL - he finally got benched a few weeks ago for Ford, then Brown got hurt and he was back and not doing well...and then Brown came back, but Ford also really struggled in that Denver game (though credit to Denver's DL - they are a wrecking crew).

Quite frankly, Cappa hasn't been very good, either. Nor Hubbard. Honestly, despite the tackle totals - Pratt has really struggled in several areas of the defense - and in some pure passing downs, he's not been on the field lately - which is something that probably should have started sooner.

I know there is a fine line to walk between giving a guy enough room to ensure the results are the results, and just yo-yo-ing guys in/out of the lineup - which is also bad...but I feel like under Taylor the rope is a bit too long at times...even if it's a planned thing - for a few snaps here/there to ensure we see what the backup/next guy is going to do...but letting guys roll out there and suck for 6-7-8 games when their history hasn't shown that much (Volson, Scott), or they are clearly on the edge of decline (Hubbard, Cappa, Pratt, Bell) is something this staff struggles with.

 

[cincygrad]

No surprise: Chase, Burrow, Trey all named to the Pro-bowl - which Chase and Trey as starters.

Brown 2nd alternate - if he had started all year, it would have been interesting to see where he would have landed.

Orlando Brown Jr - 4th alternate.

Hard to believe that Patrick Mahomes has played an entire season and is not elected to the pro bowl. He obviously doesn't have a case when you look at the numbers of Allen, Burrow, and Jackson, but I just never thought I'd see the day - Or at least didn't think we'd see it until he was in his later 30s. There are some phenomenal quarterbacks in the AFC..... And now you have Mahomes in the playoffs with a chip on his shoulder. This will be interesting.

 

[Cincyfan78]

 

[Cincyfan78]

Not sure what the triple crown on QB would be but Burrow led in Yards and TD's....

 

[Cincyfan78]

Burrow also led in attempts but was also 5th in comp% which is pretty darn good considering he led the next QB in attempts by over 80 attempts....

 

[CrashDavisSports]

I would think the 3rd would be QB rating and Lamar wiped the floor with that. QBR/Yards/TDS

 

[Cincyfan78]

I would think the 3rd would be QB rating and Lamar wiped the floor with that. QBR/Yards/TDS

I mean - Lamar lead in QBR (which I don't care for) at 77.5. Burrow was 75.

Under the other QB rating - yes, Lamar was well out in front.

Lamar also had a 1500 yard rusher - that offense was as balanced as you can get in terms of keeping defenses honest between running the ball and passing. I'm not taking anything away from Lamar because this was by FAR his best season as an actual QB throwing the ball. Much better than EITHER of his MVP years...But I'm not 100% sure I would say he was MVP...sounds odd, I know...but leading the NFL in yards and TD's with zero running attack, OL help and setting records for most 250/3TD games should mean something...even if your team doesn't make the playoffs.

FWIW - I've never been a big MVP needs to be on a winning team guy. I get it, when you don't win or don't make the playoffs....how valuable can you really be...but I think that's silly. We all know how great those players are - their situations, external situations that they cannot control, should not be a major factor (IMO) as to whether they are MVP worthy, or not.

But - should Lamar win the MVP this year, again, I would not argue against it like I have the other 2 times he won - simply because he was a RB at QB racking up yards on the ground...but I digress...one HELL of a season for Lamar. Much respect to him for breaking out.

 

[cincygrad]

Burrow also led in attempts but was also 5th in comp% which is pretty darn good considering he led the next QB in attempts by over 80 attempts....

THe fact that he is that accurate when the entire offense is so one-dimensional is super impressive. That was mentioned during the telecast the other night. Normally efficiency numbers go down a lot when you are so unbalanced and you have no easy button play action sort of stuff. It makes it even more impressive when you consider that we're not a good screen team. In fact, we're just as likely to throw an incompletion on a screen pass as we are on a pass at the sticks.

The thing that I think is cool about Burrow is how much former quarterbacks are impressed by his game. Aikman loves him and mentions it at all times. Orlovsky talks about it a lot. Brady. These guys know that what he is doing is made to look easy and it is not easy at all.

 

[Cincyfan78]

THe fact that he is that accurate when the entire offense is so one-dimensional is super impressive. That was mentioned during the telecast the other night. Normally efficiency numbers go down a lot when you are so unbalanced and you have no easy button play action sort of stuff. It makes it even more impressive when you consider that we're not a good screen team. In fact, we're just as likely to throw an incompletion on a screen pass as we are on a pass at the sticks.

The thing that I think is cool about Burrow is how much former quarterbacks are impressed by his game. Aikman loves him and mentions it at all times. Orlovsky talks about it a lot. Brady. These guys know that what he is doing is made to look easy and it is not easy at all.

Can we add in the lack of protection...this guy is not only in a very one-dimensional offense in terms of scheme and play-calling, but other teams KNOW this and tee off. The protection is minimal, at best, and there is zero threat of running the ball consistently as a play-call. Teams simply guess that 85% of the plays will be passes and bring the house against a porous offensive line.

 

[cincygrad]

Can we add in the lack of protection...this guy is not only in a very one-dimensional offense in terms of scheme and play-calling, but other teams KNOW this and tee off. The protection is minimal, at best, and there is zero threat of running the ball consistently as a play-call. Teams simply guess that 85% of the plays will be passes and bring the house against a porous offensive line.

Defenses are also happy to give up some runs. We run on first down and the modal result is that it is now 2nd and 7. Now you're one incompletion away from 3rd and long which is where the D wants you with our crappy line.