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I was unfair to Smith and I admit that. I was wrong about him. I think the NFL owes him apology in a way as 49er, Chiefs, and Skins fans all hated the guy despite the fact that he won.

Same with Manti Teo....my gosh, that documentary was amazing. I feel awful for making jokes about him. I was dead wrong about him as well.

I have never been a Wentz fan period. I am sure he is a great person, but I think he was overrated coming out of college and it seems like there is always some kind of drama always surrounding him. I wish we would have signed Mariotta and drafted Pickett or Ridder and developed them. Just my opinion.
I've been meaning to watch the Manti doc. Coming from a small college had my eye brow raised, but the Eagles were 11-2 when Wentz went down. Not gonna lie, the 28m we spent on Wentz could have fixed the secondary. Oh well.

Mariotta was a non starter for me. I was all in on Watson, so what the hell do I know? Lol.
 

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I wouldn't want Mariotta, I would not have minded Ridder. I liked that kid.

Smith did win ugly. They did win because of him but they won with him.
 

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That's fair.
I used to argue with ehb when he was still here that Smith wasn't so bad. Of course he won with Andy and EVERYone wins with Andy.

Smith was like a lucky charm or something.
 

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I used to argue with ehb when he was still here that Smith wasn't so bad. Of course he won with Andy and EVERYone wins with Andy.

Smith was like a lucky charm or something.
Smith protected the football and kept the defense off the field. He had his warts, but all the we could do just as well with Keenum proved to be false.
 

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I was unfair to Smith and I admit that. I was wrong about him. I think the NFL owes him apology in a way as 49er, Chiefs, and Skins fans all hated the guy despite the fact that he won.

Same with Manti Teo....my gosh, that documentary was amazing. I feel awful for making jokes about him. I was dead wrong about him as well.

I have never been a Wentz fan period. I am sure he is a great person, but I think he was overrated coming out of college and it seems like there is always some kind of drama always surrounding him. I wish we would have signed Mariotta and drafted Pickett or Ridder and developed them. Just my opinion.
you assume that he (mariota) would of wanted to come to this toxic franchise.
 

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you assume that he (mariota) would of wanted to come to this toxic franchise.
Any viable QB who wants to be a starter would come to this God forsaken franchise to be the starter, otherwise I would say no.
 

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you assume that he (mariota) would of wanted to come to this toxic franchise.
I think he would have been that desperate...yes. He and Wentz are in the same "last chance" boat.

I like what the Falcons did in bringing in Mariota (as a stop-gap mentor) and drafting their franchise QB. I think we will regret not taking a similar approach.
 

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I think he would have been that desperate...yes. He and Wentz are in the same "last chance" boat.

I like what the Falcons did in bringing in Mariota (as a stop-gap mentor) and drafting their franchise QB. I think we will regret not taking a similar approach.
maybe howell is that guy. who knows
 

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Any viable QB who wants to be a starter would come to this God forsaken franchise to be the starter, otherwise I would say no.
on the list of shitty teams that need a starter washington is the at the bottom of the barrel
 

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I think this is what we will have to live with, to be honest. Wentz has not looked "horrible", but he hasn't looked great either. "Average" would be a good description. He has not been careless with the ball, but he hasn't really pushed it either. I am guessing some of this is the vanilla playcalling. There again, Baker Mayfield and especially Patrick Mahomes were successful in what appeared to be "vanilla" offenses.

That being said, the 3rd and 10 sack was unacceptable for a player with his experience. He has always had a reputation of holding on to the ball too long, so it was disappointing to see that habit show up so early in the preseason. At this point, the scouting reports and testimonials are pretty accurate. Despite all of his talent, he is his own worst enemy and struggles with his decision-making.

I believe he will be better than TH, but that isn't the goal, nor should it be what we aim for. We shouldn't hang our hat on simply finding an improvement over the prior poor player/coach. We should be looking for long-term effective answers as an organization, not a short-term upgrade. I believe Wentz will be an average QB for us and that we will need to move on next year. If Wentz still had untapped potential, if he was viewed as a long-term franchise QB in the NFL, and if he was viewed as a capable leader to lead an offense, we would NOT have been the only call the Colts got.

Given that our defense has several red flags at this time, as previously pointed out, we will need the offense to score a lot of points. The defense will cost us games and we will need to score. I don't think Wentz gets us that offensive boost we need. We will need elite QB play to mask the defensive issues in various games. Wentz is not an elite QB.

I cannot understand why Rivera is playing starters in Game 3. Again, he seems to be stubborn about things and this one is a head-scratcher. We like to slam Gruden, but Gruden had a winning season here in his 2nd season and had winning seasons in 2 of his first 3 years. Rivera has yet to secure a winning season here. I have no confidence in his decisions.

Hopefully, we will look back in a few years and this will be a low point for us in having Rivera and Wentz at the same time. I feel like Clark Griswold in "Christmas Vacation" when he tells Eddie "I can't believe you are actually standing in my living room". My version is: "I can't believe Carson Wentz is our starting QB for 2022.
I won't argue against anything you say concerning Wince, Hell, its a rosier outlook than what I have. Far as RR playing the starters in game 3. I can understand it. The final scores of preseason games may not be important, but the play of the first stringers in preseason games is and lets face it. The starters haven't looked good in either game or came out on top in either game.
 

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It's football dean, be scared if you want but the game comes with risk ALL THE TIME! Our offense and defense needs more REAL work against an opponent period. Doesn't matter, they won't be in long.
Word.
 

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Yeah our first teamers havent looked good
 

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I won't argue against anything you say concerning Wince, Hell, its a rosier outlook than what I have. Far as RR playing the starters in game 3. I can understand it. The final scores of preseason games may not be important, but the play of the first stringers in preseason games is and lets face it. The starters haven't looked good in either game or came out on top in either game.
I agree boss. Here is the thing though...good teams don't play starters in the last (3rd preseason game).

I watched the Packers vs Chiefs last night (1st quarter) and no real starters saw the field. Talk about 2 teams that should and MUST be mirrored...Chiefs and Packers. They obviously have figured it out as they are good every freaking year.

Oh, my bad, I said "good teams" don't play their starters. I contradicted myself. As such, yes, it would make sense for the Commanders to play starters in the 3rd game...LOL
 
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