Rank the Most Important Positions

[Stomp]

I don’t understand these numbers at all.
If there were 5 centers drafted in the first round over the last 5 years what is the 15% mean? 5 out of 160 picks isn’t 15%

15% of the Centers drafted in the last 5 seasons were drafted in the 1st

 

[handicappers]

I don’t understand these numbers at all.
If there were 5 centers drafted in the first round over the last 5 years what is the 15% mean? 5 out of 160 picks isn’t 15%

I take it you weren't a math teacher at the Community College for Future Moocher Criminals

 

[handicappers]

bwwwahahahaha

PE1 is frantically trying to save face or move goal posts

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Center waaaay down his list with Lickers

Dated

 

[SteelersPride]

Not much at all. Actually it tells you nothing. About 240 picks and a meager 7 Center. That’s like 2% of the draft yet they account for 5% of a starting team. You’d think if it was so important there would be a lot more drafted. Thanks for proving my point.

but thats about the average per guard position?

 

[SteelersPride]

That there are at least twice as many guards and tackles, drafted, and playing. There isnt 2 centers on the field.

bingo

 

[Sparhawk]

Are we absolutely certain that he isn't mistaking this forum for the NBA or NHL forum????

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

15% of the Centers drafted in the last 5 seasons were drafted in the 1st

Ohhhh. Thanks. Each round represents 15 percent of the draft.

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

bingo

Yes but tackles get drafted 3 times as much so your “bingo” isnt “bingo”.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

 

[SteelersPride]

Yes but tackles get drafted 3 times as much so your “bingo” isnt “bingo”.

Not three times, there’s two tackles. But that doesn’t explain the guards

 

[HaroldSeattle]

^^^two tackles on ever OL, one center. Also LT is acknowledged as a very important position. That's not what is being argued about in this thread, but keep deflecting and trying to change the subject. @PhoenixEagles1

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

^^^two tackles on ever OL, one center. Also LT is acknowledged as a very important position. That's not what is being argued about in this thread, but keep deflecting and trying to change the subject. @PhoenixEagles1

That’s completely unfair. They brought up the tackle and guard scenario not me. Next, go to the beginning of this thread... it ain’t only me ranking Cemters really low. Everyone was.

Somehow I’m starting to wonder if your allegiance to Centers is along the same lines as Steve Nash winning more MVPs then Kobe (which is fucking ludicrous by the way)

 

[NEPatsfan]

177 tackles draft dating back through 2010

61 Centers drafted

129 guards

what does that tell u.....

That an offensive line has twice as many guards and tackles compared to centers.

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

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Tell me how. I’m soooooo tired of that over used, over run platitude that rarely makes sense. You accused me of changing the topic to “LT vs Center”. I replied someone else brought that argument up, not me. Then you fall back on old reliable... “Shit, I was wrong and have no reply and I’m not man enough to say ‘my bad’ so I’ll just say, STOP MOVING THE GOALPOSTS.

So tired of that especially since there were no goalposts for me to move. Literally made ZERO sense.

 

[SteelersPride]

Tell me how. I’m soooooo tired of that over used, over run platitude that rarely makes sense. You accused me of changing the topic to “LT vs Center”. I replied someone else brought that argument up, not me. Then you fall back on old reliable... “Shit, I was wrong and have no reply and I’m not man enough to say ‘my bad’ so I’ll just say, STOP MOVING THE GOALPOSTS.

So tired of that especially since there were no goalposts for me to move. Literally made ZERO sense.

well when we've talked about how often centers get drafted. I showed your draft stats dating back to 2010. Your reply is tackles get drafted three times as much as centers..........you negate the fact that there are two tackles, you also fail to leave out guards, who if u divde their draft number by 2, is almost identical to the # of centers drafted. You slightly change your argument and point, and avoid some inevitable facts. that is moving the goal posts. Slightly changing the argument each time to fit your agenda is moving the goal posts. Thats why people say you do it.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I’m soooooo tired of that

Are you?

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

well when we've talked about how often centers get drafted. I showed your draft stats dating back to 2010. Your reply is tackles get drafted three times as much as centers..........you negate the fact that there are two tackles, you also fail to leave out guards, who if u divde their draft number by 2, is almost identical to the # of centers drafted. You slightly change your argument and point, and avoid some inevitable facts. that is moving the goal posts. Slightly changing the argument each time to fit your agenda is moving the goal posts. Thats why people say you do it.

Not you, Harold was who I was talking to

 

[HaroldSeattle]

well when we've talked about how often centers get drafted. I showed your draft stats dating back to 2010. Your reply is tackles get drafted three times as much as centers..........you negate the fact that there are two tackles, you also fail to leave out guards, who if u divde their draft number by 2, is almost identical to the # of centers drafted. You slightly change your argument and point, and avoid some inevitable facts. that is moving the goal posts. Slightly changing the argument each time to fit your agenda is moving the goal posts. Thats why people say you do it.

Spot on.

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

well when we've talked about how often centers get drafted. I showed your draft stats dating back to 2010. Your reply is tackles get drafted three times as much as centers..........you negate the fact that there are two tackles, you also fail to leave out guards, who if u divde their draft number by 2, is almost identical to the # of centers drafted. You slightly change your argument and point, and avoid some inevitable facts. that is moving the goal posts. Slightly changing the argument each time to fit your agenda is moving the goal posts. Thats why people say you do it.

I never once slightly changed anything. Why do people constantly say things with zero basis. I didn’t negate that there is 2 tackles. I said they get drafted 3 times as much and it only should be twice as much if all things were equal. Yes, Guards were slightly more then two to one ratio. Guess what? Guard, like Center is one of the lesser valued positions. I never once slightly changed anything. I stayed consistent and to the point from the beginning. Harold accuses me of moving the goalposts and it made absolutely no sense at all. He said I was trying to change this to what is more important, LT or C. I said... someone else brought that up and I was speaking to them. How the fuck is that me moving the goalposts. Made absolutely zero sense.

I’m really starting to believe this love of Centers is along the same lines as the Steve Nash winning more MVPs then Kobe which is absolutely mind boggling. A lot of people could better relate to a guy who wasn’t a 6’8 super freak athlete. He was small, not very athletic and got good via hard work. People can relate to that. I think it’s the same as Center. A position that takes limited athletic ability. They aren’t super athletes. And I know this is controversial but honestly the majority are white. People can relate to that much better then some genetic freak like a young Julius Peppers. Center are bottom of the barrel athletes. The least athletic position on the field by a wide margin. Not athletically gifted enough to play tackle. Not big or strong enough to be a Guard. They don’t go one on one against anyone and help guards. Players aren’t even allowed to directly lineup over them anymore.

They have some important responsibilities, yes. They are also bottom of the barrel athletes that even if a team had a devastating hole at Center and a once in a century Center prospect was available they’d still pass if the had a top pick. That says something