Rank the Most Important Positions

[Manster7588]

half them werent even in agreement with him

Stop by the Dallas board around week 2 of the preseason, he will post a similar thought then wonder why no one agrees with him.

 

[Clayton]

I'm kinda shocked people glossed over my 'Running Backs being the 2nd most important position' comment.

I suspect almost everyone is conflating importance with value in their list which is to be expected. I generally assumed this was about value when I made my list.

 

[SteelersPride]

I'm kinda shocked people glossed over my 'Running Backs being the 2nd most important position' comment.

I suspect almost everyone is conflating importance with value in their list which is to be expected. I generally assumed this was about value when I made my list.

sorry i just can see the rationale

 

[Shanemansj13]

Not even remotely close. The early 1st round picks are LT and Centers RARELY get drafted even in the late 1st. Center is probably the least important position in NFL

It's nowhere near the least important position, it just isn't as important as LT. LT is the most important position other than QB IMO.

 

[SteelersPride]

It's nowhere near the least important position, it just isn't as important as LT. LT is the most important position other than QB IMO.

chalk yourself up for agreeing with him

 

[SteelersPride]

@PhoenixEagles1 come on buddy we all waiting

 

[darken65]

It's nowhere near the least important position, it just isn't as important as LT. LT is the most important position other than QB IMO.

What if the QB is left handed?

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Mid to late 1st round is what I've been saying. I didnt say mid to late in the draft. I know teams draft Centers but they dont mid to late 1st round!

I went back and checked, yes teams have drafted C's in the mid to late first round. The reason why I brought up mid to late rounds is cause you commented that teams rarely draft C's.

 

[SteelersPride]

I went back and checked, yes teams have drafted C's in the mid to late first round. The reason why I brought up mid to late rounds is cause you commented that teams rarely draft C's.

your supporting him, just watch

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

your supporting him, just watch

I'm kind of confused by all this. At one point he says teams never draft C's then another comment later on he says teams draft C's but not mid to late first which teams have done. My point was C's are very important but aren't drafted as often as other positions since you only need two players for that position vs other positions with depth needed.

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

I'm kind of confused by all this. At one point he says teams never draft C's then another comment later on he says teams draft C's but not mid to late first which teams have done. My point was C's are very important but aren't drafted as often as other positions since you only need two players for that position vs other positions with depth needed.

What's hard to understand? I said only 3 out of 32 teams in the last 1/2 decade drafted Centers in the late 1st. That doesn't mean teams draft them I'm the late first... it means about one team out of ever ten drafted a C in the late 1st perfectly illustrating that teams don't put high values on Centers.

This is also so stupid and you're a nimrod too Manster if you think C are valuable. You can tell how valued positions are by where they are drafted. Why has a Center never ever ever been drafted in the top 10. Even blue chip all pro hall of fame potential Centers have never ever ever been drafted in the top 10. Want to know why? Cause it's one of the lesser valued position. Why do QBs, DE, LT always get picked in the top 10. Care they are more important

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Not even remotely close. The early 1st round picks are LT and Centers RARELY get drafted even in the late 1st. Center is probably the least important position in NFL

You think a Center is less valuable than an OG? Ok, come on now. We're going to need a "come to Jesus" meeting about this, aren't we?

 

[SteelersPride]

could u plz show ur quadruple support u need 28-32 supporting posts so far u have like 4-5

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

Read and learn....

Ranking each position's importance, from quarterback to returner



1) Quarterback


There's no disputing the importance of the position in 2015. The quarterback is not only the team's biggest decision maker, but his ability to make timely plays and efficiently manage the game routinely determines which team lands in the winner's circle at the end of the season.



2) Designated pass rusher 1 (RDE/ROLB)


3) Left tackle




4) Left cornerback


The NFL's growing emphasis on the passing game makes it imperative to have a talented cover corner in the lineup to discourage throws to the prominent side of the field (for a right-handed QB). While some teams elect to have their top corner "travel" -- to match up with the opponent's top receiver -- traditionalists play the percentages and position their top cover man on the side quarterbacks target the most.

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5) Wide receiver 1

6) Defensive tackle




7) Running back


Many of the top teams in the NFL still rely on a powerful ground game fueled by a dominant runner. The presence of a standout RB alleviates the pressure on the quarterback and gives the offense the balance needed to win against elite defenses.



8) Designated pass rusher 2 (LDE/LOLB)


Ideally, elite defenses have the capacity to attack the passer from both edges. While the DPR1 typically commands the bulk of attention, a dynamic edge rusher on the strong side can exploit an inferior pass protector at right tackle and speed up the quarterback's internal clock.


9) Middle linebacker


The "Mike" linebacker remains the primary communication position on defense. He takes the call from the sideline and is primarily responsible for making the adjustments along the front line. In addition, the Mike patrols the box from sideline to sideline and racks up a ton of tackles as the fast-flow player on the second level.



10) Tight end


The rules restricting excessive contact and big hits on defenseless receivers have led more teams to feature an athletic, big-bodied tight end in the passing game. These basketball-like athletes are outstanding red-zone weapons, but they primarily do their damage between the hashes on various "post-up" plays. With offensive coordinators intent on making life easier for the quarterback, the presence of a big target in the middle increases the efficiency of the passing game.



11) Free safety


Most defensive coordinators still subscribe to the theory that elite defenses are strong down the middle. Thus, teams are constantly searching for an impact "MOF" (middle of the field) playmaker to discourage throws between the numbers. Ball skills, instincts and solid tackling ability are required for this critical role in the back end.



12) Weak-side linebacker

The 4-3 defense is no longer the predominant scheme of choice in the NFL, but "Will" linebackers remain designated playmakers for teams employing the system. These active LBs are encouraged to shoot through open gaps to hit runners in the backfield, and they're incorporated into the pass rush on creative blitzes. Thus, the best players at the position are explosive, athletic and instinctive.



13) Right tackle


The notion of right tackles playing primarily as run blockers has changed with more teams relying on the passing game. Pass protectors on the right side must be able to move defenders off the ball while also displaying the agility and lateral quickness to shadow electric edge rushers. Although most teams will, at times, use a running back or tight end to help in protection, the position now requires better athletes and pass blockers.



14) Right cornerback


Offensive coordinators routinely throw away from the opponent's top cover corner, leading to more throws to the defensive right. Consequently, defensive coaches are placing better athletes and technicians at right cornerback, to suffocate the passing game.



15) Right guard


The utilization of "slide" protection requires teams to place a solid pass blocker at right guard. This scheme routinely pushes the center to the left to help the left guard, leaving the right guard to face a talented defensive tackle in a one-on-one matchup. In the run game, right guards must be able to move defensive tackles and cut off linebackers on the second level.


16) Wide receiver 2


Despite the increased importance of the WR1 and tight end in most NFL passing games, offensive coordinators still covet a legitimate threat on the back side capable of forcing the defense to defend the entire field. Although most WR2s aren't capable of carrying a passing game over the entire season, the best ones have the capacity to anchor the offense on a short-term basis. Thus, they offer tremendous value for teams built around the play of the quarterback.


17) Center


Some would argue that the center deserves a higher spot on this list, due to his important role as communicator and leader. The center controls most of the adjustments at the line, alleviating some of the pressure on the quarterback to act as the traffic cop. Although offensive coaches place a greater emphasis on instincts and football aptitude, the players at the position with superior athleticism and agility allow creative play designers to utilize crafty schemes at the point of attack.



18) Strong safety


Strong safeties are pegged as run stoppers, but defensive coordinators also expect them to act as enforcers in the middle of the field on passing plays. Big hitters not only discourage receivers from venturing between the hashes, but their presence in the middle forces quarterback to look elsewhere for high-percentage completions. Given their overall impact, strong safeties might be a tad underrated in the team-building process.


19) Strong-side linebacker


The reduced role of the running game has turned "Sam" linebackers into two-down players -- unless they exhibit special qualities on passing downs (blitz/pass-rush ability or cover skills). The premier players at the position are versatile defenders with superb agility and athleticism.

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20) Left guard


Every position along the offensive line has a significant impact on the production of the offense, but many coaches will stash their most vulnerable front-line blocker at left guard. The position requires a blocker to possess the strength and power to move defenders off the ball on running plays, but coaches can mask a player's deficiencies at the point of attack by instructing the center to double-team or chip before climbing to the second level. The same tactics can be employed in pass protection, depending on the athleticism and agility of the left guard.

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21) Nose tackle

Nose tackles are viewed as run stuffers, but the elite players at the position also possess the skills to collapse the pocket up the middle. Depending on the scheme (3-4 or 4-3) and skills of the player, a nose tackle typically isn't factored into the pass rush. Thus, an NT capable of delivering significant sack production brings more value to a defense.



22) Wide receiver 3


The aerial evolution of the NFL has led most teams to feature a WR3 (or TE2) instead of a fullback in the starting lineup. Although most WR3s will align in the slot, some teams will move one of their top receivers inside to exploit a favorable matchup against a nickel corner. As a result, the job description for a WR3 is team-specific, but many squads count on the sub-pass catcher to come in and make plays when the defense makes a concerted effort to snuff out the WR1.


23) Kicker


Kickers are routinely treated as afterthoughts by casual observers, but coaches certainly appreciate a scorer capable of putting points on the board from long distance. Kickers adept at knocking the ball through the uprights from 50-plus yards expand the scoring zone for the offense, providing the coordinator with more play-calling options.


24) Punter


The field-position battle doesn't show up prominently in the box score, but coaches understand the crucial role punters play in flipping the field. Securing a punter capable of combining hang time and distance is important, but some coaches prefer guys able to consistently knock the ball down inside the 20-yard line on "coffin corner" kicks.



25) Return specialist


The recent rule change on kickoffs has led to more touchbacks and dramatically reduced the role of the kick returner, but special teams coaches still covet a playmaker at the position. Returners capable of pushing the ball out past the 30-yard line not only increase the odds of scoring on offense, but they set the table for winning the field-position battle. Punt returners have more opportunities to impact the game in today's NFL; special teams mavens look for guys with the potential to average 10-plus yards on each touch.

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

NO you DID NOT quadruple the number. Keep up the great work, the entertainment is priceless.

And you're lost if you think teams value the Center position. Why has no team ever ever ever drafted a Center in the top 10 if its sooooooo important. Just answer that question. WHY HAS NO TEAM EVER DRAFTED A CENTER IN THE TOP 10 IF ITS SUCH A CRUCIAL POSITION?

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

could u plz show ur quadruple support u need 28-32 supporting posts so far u have like 4-5

I posted 17 people who didnt list Center in their top 5. You said NO ONE AGREES with me.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

And you're lost if you think teams value the Center position. Why has no team ever ever ever drafted a Center in the top 10 if its sooooooo important. Just answer that question. WHY HAS NO TEAM EVER DRAFTED A CENTER IN THE TOP 10 IF ITS SUCH A CRUCIAL POSITION?

Anachronism. Teams draft a less valuable position in guard in the top 10; it's inevitable a Center will get there too. Bad centers will make the rest of the OL look worse than they actually are. In fact, since they hold the A-GAP, the geometrically most effecient way to reach the QB, a bad center is catostrophic to an offense. A good center can pull anywhere, stay busy, make the linecalls, and give a good DT/NT a run for their money. All the offensive positions are actually devalued given how distorted the QB makes it. In my list for example the offense takes a pretty firm backseat to the defense outside of QB.

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

Anachronism. Teams draft a less valuable position in guard in the top 10; it's inevitable a Center will get there too. Bad centers will make the rest of the OL look worse than they actually are. In fact, since they hold the A-GAP, the geometrically most effecient way to reach the QB, a bad center is catostrophic to an offense. A good center can pull anywhere, stay busy, make the linecalls, and give a good DT/NT a run for their money. All the offensive positions are actually devalued given how distorted the QB makes it. In my list for examp

Its inevitable huhhh. Well Ill be waiting. PFF ranked the Eagles as the 7th best OLine in the NFL but ranked their starting Center as the 33rd best. Its catastrophic to have a bad LT thats why LT get drafted high every year but Centers have NEVER been drafted in the top 10.

Nice answer.... Essentially what youre saying is not one football team has ever drafted a Center in the top 10, but it will eventually happen. Gotcha

 

[Manster7588]

And you're lost if you think teams value the Center position. Why has no team ever ever ever drafted a Center in the top 10 if its sooooooo important. Just answer that question. WHY HAS NO TEAM EVER DRAFTED A CENTER IN THE TOP 10 IF ITS SUCH A CRUCIAL POSITION?

Draft posistion has nothing to do with posistion value. If you think it does you're a bigger fool than you've led us to believe.

Now please tell me what is quadruple of 8?

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Its inevitable huhhh. Well Ill be waiting. PFF ranked the Eagles as the 7th best OLine in the NFL but ranked their starting Center as the 33rd best. Its catastrophic to have a bad LT thats why LT get drafted high every year but Centers have NEVER been drafted in the top 10.

Nice answer.... Essentially what youre saying is not one football team has ever drafted a Center in the top 10, but it will eventually happen. Gotcha

Sure will. I am perfectly fine saying that.