Rangers & Tigers

[WilltheThrill]

never said he was a great manager, just that the team has reached 2 straight WS and is 20 games over .500 with him as manager. you don't fire a manager with those kind of stats.

1. I never said you said anything about him being a great manager.

2. I never asked for Wash to be fired.


All I did was point out that the casual fan out there who really doesn't follow the game that closely or know the in's and out's just sees that the Rangers have been to 2 straight World Series and says that automatically makes Ron Washington a great manager (which in certain aspects, he is anything but). Some people judge managers solely on W-L records and it's an extremely short-sighted way of looking at things.

You could put the best manager in the history of the game in control of this year's Astros, they would still finish with a lousy record, and a lot of people out there would just look at the W-L record and say he should be fired. The same principle applies with the Rangers. You could put someone who has never even heard of baseball in charge of the team and because of the talent on the roster they would still finish with a pretty good record.

A better evaluation of the effect a manager has on his team is to look at the players on the roster and come up with a reasonable expectation of how they should perform as a group. Then watch what the manager does on a game-by-game basis concerning setting lineups, making pitching changes, calling for pinch hits and defensive alignments, and other in-game tactical moves. If the manager's moves seem to fall in line with what stats and history seem to back up as the logical plays, and if the team gets positive results because of those managerial calls, he's doing his job.

I heard on the radio today that the whispers are getting much louder these days in the Rangers clubhouse concerning Mike Young playing every day and simply not having it anymore. It's the big elephant in the room. Nobody wants to talk about the highly-paid face of the franchise and locker room leader being a burden on the team, but it's becoming increasingly impossible for the players and coaches to ignore.

 

[AGZBASEBALL]

The Great Lou Gehrig faced the same situation when He stopped producing. He had ALS but didn't know it at the time. Didn't want to hurt the Yankees and removed himself from the Lineup. Michael Young has come to the Crossroads in a different situation. He is hurting the team and even his Teamates aren't going to be able to ignore this too much longer. Young needs to step up and go to Wash and ask He be removed from being a Starter on the Rangers.

 

[WilltheThrill]

The Great Lou Gehrig faced the same situation when He stopped producing. He had ALS but didn't know it at the time. Didn't want to hurt the Yankees and removed himself from the Lineup. Michael Young has come to the Crossroads in a different situation. He is hurting the team and even his Teamates aren't going to be able to ignore this too much longer. Young needs to step up and go to Wash and ask He be removed from being a Starter on the Rangers.

Gehrig was an exception though. In MY's defense, I will say that as an athlete it is VERY hard to admit that you just can't hack it anymore and it's time to call it quits. I played baseball my whole life and had big dreams of going pro. I made all-star teams growing up and was the best player in my high school. I even had a few NCAA schools somewhat interested in me. So being that young and naive, I really thought I had a chance. When the division 1 thing fell through for me, I played for 2 years in junior college hoping to attract some attention and keep the dream alive. But I finally had to look in the mirror and accept the truth- that while I was good, I was nowhere near as good as what it took to play baseball for a living. It was very hard.

So I can only begin to imagine what it must be like for a career major league all-star and local legend to have to start to realize that the end is near. Mike Modano and Emmitt Smith both took a while to realize it. Modano went to the Red Wings and Smith went to the Cardinals, each thinking that he still had what it took to be a difference-making starter. For legendary athletes such as those guys, playing sports and being really good at it is all they know.

 

[jta4437]

Gehrig was an exception though. In MY's defense, I will say that as an athlete it is VERY hard to admit that you just can't hack it anymore and it's time to call it quits. I played baseball my whole life and had big dreams of going pro. I made all-star teams growing up and was the best player in my high school. I even had a few NCAA schools somewhat interested in me. So being that young and naive, I really thought I had a chance. When the division 1 thing fell through for me, I played for 2 years in junior college hoping to attract some attention and keep the dream alive. But I finally had to look in the mirror and accept the truth- that while I was good, I was nowhere near as good as what it took to play baseball for a living. It was very hard.

So I can only begin to imagine what it must be like for a career major league all-star and local legend to have to start to realize that the end is near. Mike Modano and Emmitt Smith both took a while to realize it. Modano went to the Red Wings and Smith went to the Cardinals, each thinking that he still had what it took to be a difference-making starter. For legendary athletes such as those guys, playing sports and being really good at it is all they know.

This might be that season that every old pro has that makes them and others finally realize that its over

You would just think that the pwers that be would've pulled the plug long ago, especially with better options

 

[AGZBASEBALL]

It is tough for any Pro Athlete to know wgen He is Done. Goes on in all sports. The Athlete Himself is the last to know. Young feels He can come out of it and still Play. Doesn't look at it the way everybody else is right now.