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Xeliou66

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The Browns could be decent if they had good QB play - they have some talented pieces, especially on D, and they made the playoffs in 2023 when Flacco was solid.
 

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The Browns could be decent if they had good QB play - they have some talented pieces, especially on D, and they made the playoffs in 2023 when Flacco was solid.
Specifically being healthy and not turning the ball over. Eyeballing the metrics last year, they had the 31st best offense last year and when your offense is that bad it makes your defense look worse than it is. The Browns had 34 giveaways last year which is 2 a game. The only other team that bad was Tennessee and guess who the two worst teams were.
 

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Specifically being healthy and not turning the ball over. Eyeballing the metrics last year, they had the 31st best offense last year and when your offense is that bad it makes your defense look worse than it is. The Browns had 34 giveaways last year which is 2 a game. The only other team that bad was Tennessee and guess who the two worst teams were.
Yeah their QBs threw more picks than TD passes, that’s awful. And their rushing game wasn’t good enough to offset the bad QB play so their O sucked.
 

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Specifically being healthy and not turning the ball over. Eyeballing the metrics last year, they had the 31st best offense last year and when your offense is that bad it makes your defense look worse than it is. The Browns had 34 giveaways last year which is 2 a game. The only other team that bad was Tennessee and guess who the two worst teams were.
For sure and while I do think these can be somewhat random we were terrible in forcing TOs (or at least coming up with TOs even if not forced). Mostly same D, I think, was fine to good the previous year forcing TOs.

all this said not one to rip the Browns for this as made sense at time just having a QB like Baker we'd have won a lot more IMO last season.
 

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For sure and while I do think these can be somewhat random we were terrible in forcing TOs (or at least coming up with TOs even if not forced). Mostly same D, I think, was fine to good the previous year forcing TOs.

all this said not one to rip the Browns for this as made sense at time just having a QB like Baker we'd have won a lot more IMO last season.
I remember the Chiefs/Browns game pretty well. Browns maybe had a shot in that with even a top 20 QB.
 

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I remember the Chiefs/Browns game pretty well. Browns maybe had a shot in that with even a top 20 QB.
Yep...and while we fell behind the eagles early and could hardly get a stop had a chance near the end to pull it out if I remember correctly.
 

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Yep...and while we fell behind the eagles early and could hardly get a stop had a chance near the end to pull it out if I remember correctly.
Yeah that was the first game out of the bye for the Eagles and that was an ugly week here. Sirianni was seen chirping a fan at the end of the game. He brought his kids to the presser to seemingly be a shield for criticism. That day the Eagles season looked dire. Thank God they got so much better from that day and thank God they were playing the Browns. They could survive that with a win when a loss might have sent them spiraling.
 
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