Random FF Thoughts

[TREFF]

Purdy did just fine on swing passes, crossing routes, checkdowns and the like. when it came to anything above and beyond that, that's not where he thrives. The kid is good, but he has obvious limitations

 

[averagejoe]

Purdy did just fine on swing passes, crossing routes, checkdowns and the like. when it came to anything above and beyond that, that's not where he thrives. The kid is good, but he has obvious limitations

Many-a-good QB has faltered in the limelight of the Super Bowl. Not gonna hold that against Purdy. The kid can play.

 

[TREFF]

Many-a-good QB has faltered in the limelight of the Super Bowl. Not gonna hold that against Purdy. The kid can play.

Well that wasn't a critique of just his play at the SB.. thats where he's been since day 1. And yes he can.

 

[SmokingMonkey]

Purdy did just fine on swing passes, crossing routes, checkdowns and the like. when it came to anything above and beyond that, that's not where he thrives. The kid is good, but he has obvious limitations

based on the eye test, I'm assuming?

sorry to be a nerd, but I like to see some stats that support a statement like that, especially after we all just watched Purdy play his 1st full season in the NFL where he did the following:

- #1 in passer rating
- #1 in yards/att
- #1 in passes over 30yds
- #1 in passes over 40yds
- #2 in air yards/completion
- #4 in passes over 50yds
- #8 in avg depth of target
- #9 in air yards

The data supports Purdy being well above average in downfield passing - actually was one of the best last year. Are there any comparable data points that show he's just a checkdown/slant thrower?

Of course he has some of the best YAC guys in the league (#1 in YAC/completion, #4 in overall YAC yards behind Mahomes, Tua, Goff), but he was still seeing a lot of success downfield as well. He'd probably be throwing it even deeper if he didn't have to force feed some boring RB all those touches every week and could just air it out like we all want to see.

 

[TREFF]

based on the eye test, I'm assuming?

sorry to be a nerd, but I like to see some stats that support a statement like that, especially after we all just watched Purdy play his 1st full season in the NFL where he did the following:

- #1 in passer rating
- #1 in yards/att
- #1 in passes over 30yds
- #1 in passes over 40yds
- #2 in air yards/completion
- #4 in passes over 50yds
- #8 in avg depth of target
- #9 in air yards

The data supports Purdy being well above average in downfield passing - actually was one of the best last year. Are there any comparable data points that show he's just a checkdown/slant thrower?

Of course he has some of the best YAC guys in the league (#1 in YAC/completion, #4 in overall YAC yards behind Mahomes, Tua, Goff), but he was still seeing a lot of success downfield as well. He'd probably be throwing it even deeper if he didn't have to force feed some boring RB all those touches every week and could just air it out like we all want to see.

Had to laugh at the CMAC being boring reference. Nice.

Well, anything that isn't a timing route over the middle 5-10 yards up the feild, or a deep bomb to a guy who beat coverage, usually on a play action due to the boring RB being a threat, it doesn't seem to work out well for him.
He's great at getting through progressions, and getting through them quickly, accurate on most anything, other than those intermediate throws.
And that's all a team with CMAC, Deebo, Ayuik, and Kittle on it needs from a QB, get it out, get it out accurately and on time, let those guys eat.

It'll be interesting to see what happens when these skill guys need to be re-signed, when Trent Williams gets paid again, and when Purdy gets paid who remains and what he can do with what's left. But until then, I think it'll always be a debate as to whether Purdy is actually any good, or if he is merely a good facilitator with the best set of offensive weapons in the league

 

[SmokingMonkey]

Had to laugh at the CMAC being boring reference. Nice.

Well, anything that isn't a timing route over the middle 5-10 yards up the feild, or a deep bomb to a guy who beat coverage, usually on a play action due to the boring RB being a threat, it doesn't seem to work out well for him.
He's great at getting through progressions, and getting through them quickly, accurate on most anything, other than those intermediate throws.
And that's all a team with CMAC, Deebo, Ayuik, and Kittle on it needs from a QB, get it out, get it out accurately and on time, let those guys eat.

It'll be interesting to see what happens when these skill guys need to be re-signed, when Trent Williams gets paid again, and when Purdy gets paid who remains and what he can do with what's left. But until then, I think it'll always be a debate as to whether Purdy is actually any good, or if he is merely a good facilitator with the best set of offensive weapons in the league

All valid reservations. Hard to find any top shelf QBs that don't have at least 1 star playmaker to throw the ball at, Purdy does benefit from having 4, but I do think those guys benefit greatly as well.

Prior to Purdy, we didn't really see both Deebo and Aiyuk have good years in the same season, and I believe this was the best Kittle has ever played when both of the WRs were healthy for most of the season (off the top of head, feel free to stat check me on that). I'd argue this was Kittle's best season since they drafted Aiyuk.

 

[TREFF]

All valid reservations. Hard to find any top shelf QBs that don't have at least 1 star playmaker to throw the ball at, Purdy does benefit from having 4, but I do think those guys benefit greatly as well.

Prior to Purdy, we didn't really see both Deebo and Aiyuk have good years in the same season, and I believe this was the best Kittle has ever played when both of the WRs were healthy for most of the season (off the top of head, feel free to stat check me on that). I'd argue this was Kittle's best season since they drafted Aiyuk.

stat check? a break from real work? yes please!!

Deebo rookie in 2019, Aiyuk rookie in 2020.

Kittle's 'best' season is up for debate. Yardage and receptions wise, it was 2018. 88 receptions for 1300+ and 5 scores. This was with Beathard, Mullens and JimmyG

2019 with Deebo around, 85 with 1000+, and 5 scores in 14 games- JimmyG at QB all 14 games

2020 with Deebo for 7 games and Aiyuk - Kittle only played 8 games, so not much to go on there- but his YDs per game were a career high 79.3 for those 8. And another season of the three headed QB of JimmyG, Mullens and Beathard.

2021-Deebo 16 games and Aiyuk for 17 - Kittle played in 11 and had 71 for 910, and 6 scores. 5.1 r/g, 65 yds per game. This was primarily with JimmyG and a little Trey Lance

h 2022, Kittle missed the first two games, 60 catches for 750+ yds, a career low 51 yds per game (minus rookie season), BUT, he had 11 TD's- 7 of which came in 4 of the 5 games Purdy started to end the season.

This year 65 for 1000+, 6 scores, second lowest yards per game at 63.8 (again, minus the rookie year), second lowest receptions per game at 4.1 (2022 being the lowest at 4.0)

I think it'd be a stretch to say this was Kittle's best year overall since both Deebo and Aiyuk came aboard. I'd give that distinction to 2021, and that was in only 11 games.

This year (2023) was easily Aiyuk's best season, but both Kittle and Deebo did better in 2021 under JimmyG..imho

 

[SmokingMonkey]

Looks like we've got another stalker. Weird he's on a Purdy tweet fest ONE day after we start talking about him....

 

[TREFF]

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Looks like we've got another stalker. Weird he's on a Purdy tweet fest ONE day after we start talking about him....

Right?

Of course RGIII says lots of things that people roll their eyes at. Tough to determine what he says and really believes, and what he says just to stir shit...like that Lynch and Shanny would've been fired if Purdy hadn't saved them.

 

[Chef99]

Justin Fields going to the Steelers? Apparently, Tomlin is talking to people about how much he loves the guy.

 

[broncosmitty]

Justin Fields going to the Steelers? Apparently, Tomlin is talking to people about how much he loves the guy.

Cutting out the middle man?

No stop off backing up Josh Allen first?

 

[Chef99]

Cutting out the middle man?

No stop off backing up Josh Allen first?

If I knew what you meant, I'd have a better response.

 

[broncosmitty]

If I knew what you meant, I'd have a better response.

The last Bears QB draft pick that failed went to Buffalo before Pittsburgh.

Was kinda comparing Fields to my boy Mitch.

 

[Chef99]

The last Bears QB draft pick that failed went to Buffalo before Pittsburgh.

Was kinda comparing Fields to my boy Mitch.

But wait, you're a Lions fan, right?

Aw, whatever....when's Baseball start?

 

[broncosmitty]

But wait, you're a Lions fan, right?

Aw, whatever....when's Baseball start?

I am.

And continue to be proven wrong when it comes to Mitch being good.

I’ve got some trimming to do before baseball starts.

 

[Bandit]

Always the quietest time of year for dynasty. That stretch between the Super Bowl and the start of the new league year is always boring. Just in case anybody is wondering about the 5th year options coming up, here is the list of the 1st rounders and how much the 5th year option would cost the teams to exercise it. Something tells me that Trey Lance might have the 5th year option exercised on him. The biggest steal might be Etienne at just under $6,000,000. Only 6 Pro bowlers in this class's first round and all within the first 13 picks of the draft.

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[SmokingMonkey]

Always the quietest time of year for dynasty. That stretch between the Super Bowl and the start of the new league year is always boring. Just in case anybody is wondering about the 5th year options coming up, here is the list of the 1st rounders and how much the 5th year option would cost the teams to exercise it. Something tells me that Trey Lance might have the 5th year option exercised on him. The biggest steal might be Etienne at just under $6,000,000. Only 6 Pro bowlers in this class's first round and all within the first 13 picks of the draft.

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Feels gross but I actually don't hate Pitts at $10mil when you look at TE contracts. Kmet only other TE under 27yo that makes more than $3.5 and he just signed a big deal last off season

 

[TREFF]

Feels gross but I actually don't hate Pitts at $10mil when you look at TE contracts. Kmet only other TE under 27yo that makes more than $3.5 and he just signed a big deal last off season

I think if you put Pitts in Detriot and Laporta in Atlanta for the '23 season, they'd be very similar to what we actually got out of the Lions TE and the Falcons TE. Pitts is probably worth it, IF they'd ever utilize him for what he is.

 

[SmokingMonkey]

I think if you put Pitts in Detriot and Laporta in Atlanta for the '23 season, they'd be very similar to what we actually got out of the Lions TE and the Falcons TE. Pitts is probably worth it, IF they'd ever utilize him for what he is.

If Dawson Knox can make 13mil/yr, Pitts can get 10

 

[SmokingMonkey]

@Barilko hope you enjoyed it while it lasted, these girls straight up wreck athletes careers for a living