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King: Why a Rams-Giants Beckham trade makes sense

ORLANDO — There can’t be another mega-trade in the NFL this off-season, can there? There can if the Giants get pushed too far by Odell Beckham Jr., and if the Rams decide to pull out every stop to win a Super Bowl in 2018 or 2019.

I’m not predicting a trade of Beckham to the Rams. (But if you listen to The MMQB Podcast With Peter King this week, you’ll hear that one of my guests, Peter Schrager of FOX and Good Morning Football, is.) I am saying that, except for the objections of Giants coach Pat Shurmur—who told me definitively Tuesday at the annual NFL owners meetings he wants to coach Beckham—a trade of the superstar wideout to the Rams makes an awful lot of sense.

I can also tell you there has been discussion of a Beckham deal between the Giants and Rams, though it’s not serious yet. There are those within the league who know Rams or Giants people who believe strongly that this is more than a pipe dream, and that it could happen. NFL Network reported this week that Beckham, entering his fifth NFL season, wants a new contract now or he won’t report for offseason work or for the season. He’s due to make $8.46 million in the last year of his rookie deal.

Let’s count the ways Beckham-to-the-Rams makes sense:

• Rams GM Les Snead told me on Tuesday that the next two years are when the team can fit a mega-salary or two into its salary cap. Quarterback Jared Goff is due to make $7.6 million and $8.9 million, respectively, in years three and four of his rookie contract, both of which will be five percent or less of the Rams’ cap each year. That’s great for quarterback cost control. While the quarterback is making reasonable money, Los Angeles could load up in 2018 and ‘19 by front-loading mega-deals with defensive tackle Aaron Donald and/or an expensive important addition like Beckham. Both would be in the $20-million-per-year average.

• The Rams have guts. Snead never met a trade he didn’t like. Already this offseason, he has acquired a new cornerback group, Aqib Talib and Marcus Peters, and an impact defensive tackle to play alongside Donald, Ndamukong Suh. With the loss of burner wideout Sammy Watkins in free agency, there is no question coach Sean McVay would love to add Beckham to the mix.

• Regarding the Beckham combustibility: I am told McVay would have no problem working with Beckham and does not fear the off-field distractions he brings. That stuff has been wearisome (that’s putting it mildly) to Giants brass.

• Regarding the Dream Team comparisons: They’re real, and they’re spectacular, and the Rams seem willing to take on one more potential distraction. The Eagles brought in a slew of expensive and famous free agents in 2011, backup quarterback Vince Young dubbed it the “Dream Team,” and this collection of talent stumbled to an 8-8 record. Snead told me he’s not afraid of a starry team, and he thinks McVay can handle it.

• Beckham is a great player who may not fit the Giants’ conservative organization. Does a team trying to build a long-term team want to risk making its centerpiece a player who angers ownership with his immaturity?

• Schrager estimated a fair-value deal would be Beckham for two first-round picks from the Rams. Sounds heavy on the surface, but is it really? The Rams pick 23rd in this year’s first round, and it’s likely to think they’ll be in the same range of the bottom third of the draft next year too. Would the 23rd pick in 2018 and, say, the 27th pick in 2019 be reasonable for the Rams to pay and for the Giants to receive? Seems fair from both ends. If the Rams could trade two low ones and get a generational talent, that’s fair—assuming Beckham’s health and off-field behavior stay in line. If the Giants could have two ones in each of the next two drafts, GM Dave Gettleman could defend that as being the nucleus of the Giants’ next generation.

I don’t know if the Giants would accept two first-round picks for Beckham, though I bet they would. I don’t know if the Rams would offer two ones for Beckham, though I bet they would.

Stay tuned. The most interesting offseason in years, decades maybe, could have one final pre-draft bombshell.
 

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Yeah crazy. Watkins and then Suh


If we didn't have Woods locked up we would have signed Watkins. But I think Woods is pretty underrated.

Just not a true #1 though..
 

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I never liked the Smith pick. Thought they should've traded out of the pick for one, and second, a former TE turned OT is never a good idea. Name one that ever became a good player?

Just like taking an OT that basically played G in college (Robinson ) is not a good idea either.

Both those picks were reaches. The Rams bought into the hype on both those players and they were both one of the worst #2 picks ever.

It's pretty much always a red flag when you draft high a OT that plays in a run oriented offense like Baylor/Auburn where the tackles pretty much are over glorified guards. Our stupid FO at that time were drooling at the mouth for these scrubs.
 

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Beckham in Los Angeles? might be a perfect fit for him, la la land and he will go together like peanut butter and jelly.
 

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Look - we've got the HEAD STOMPER (Suh), CHAIN YANKER (Talib), and FLAG THROWER) Peters. Where else would the KICKER NET ATTACKER (Beckham) fit in?
 

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It's pretty much always a red flag when you draft high a OT that plays in a run oriented offense like Baylor/Auburn where the tackles pretty much are over glorified guards. Our stupid FO at that time were drooling at the mouth for these scrubs.
With all due respect Jermaine, no one at the time (2008-2009) knew the effects of the vast popularity of the College Spread offense, and how it would translate in the offensive lineman challenges over a decade ago at the next level.

It's real easy to see these days, and for a lot of us a half decade ago, so if you were citing the GRob pick, I'd back you 100% but back in 09' those stud Offensive linemen were coveted with little respect to how they would assimilate at the next level due to the popularity of the Spread Offense at the College level.
 

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The latest on the Beckham trade is the Rams are trying to get the Geeants to soften their demand of two first rounders for Beckham to be more like a one and six this year and a two and five next year.
 

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The latest on the Beckham trade is the Rams are trying to get the Geeants to soften their demand of two first rounders for Beckham to be more like a one and six this year and a two and five next year.

They don't have a 2 next year. They traded it for Peters.
 

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Excuse me ALR. I meant to say a three next year.

Is the guy really worth all that though?

He's coming off a bad ankle injury, he wants,a ridiculous contract that the,Rams would have to sign him to if they are giving up that much to get him, and he's a headache as well ( probably worse than Suh, Talib and Peters combined )?

I don't think he is worth it personally.

Do the Rams need a WR like him? Absolutely. Just not him personally
 

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One more thing about this trade.

They can't sign everyone to these big extensions. They need to take care of Donald already. If Suh works out, they need to sign him. Gurley and Goff will be do next season and the one after, as well as Peters.

And I personally think Reynolds could be that tall, deep threat the Rams want Beckham for.

I'm not saying he will be as good as Beckham, but you never know until you play the guy. Nobody knew Kupp would become the LA version of Welker either until he actually played.
 

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One more thing about this trade.

They can't sign everyone to these big extensions. They need to take care of Donald already. If Suh works out, they need to sign him. Gurley and Goff will be do next season and the one after, as well as Peters.

And I personally think Reynolds could be that tall, deep threat the Rams want Beckham for.

I'm not saying he will be as good as Beckham, but you never know until you play the guy. Nobody knew Kupp would become the LA version of Welker either until he actually played.

Donald deal will get done and once it is, we will still have about 80 mil in cap room for next season. Snead and Co. have put us in DAMN good shape to not only keep our main young players, but maybye even add a couple more.
 

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I'm for getting Beckham for a 1 and a 6 this year and a 3 and a 5 next year! If we acquire Beckham and somebody reminds all four of our new acquisitions that the Hall Of Fame is in their grasp if they behave on and off the field and team up for Super Bowl runs, I think they will understand it is not about them individually.
 
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