duke1861
Well-Known Member
My ragging on him is due to the fact that he wasn't qualified for the job to begin with. He was fired as the QB coach in Minnesota and had to take a college Offensive Analyst job at Michigan in 2017. At Minny, the passing attack under his QBs were ranked 28th, 31st, and 18th. The Vikings had enough and fired him in early 2017.I think ragging on Turner is premature. He hasn't had a QB since he has been here and the WR position has been poor.
Rivera hired him as a QB coach in CAR and he was below average there with his QBs (16th and 21st in the league) in 2018 and 2019. He was named interim OC in Carolina for the rest of the 2019 season. Seems like he has struggled in his QB coaching roles, as such, it was confusing as to why Rivera hired him. O'Connell and other candidates who were considered had more experience.
In 2 years in WSH, Turner has proven little to nothing. His offense averaged 20.9 points per game in 2020, which was 25th in the league. In 2021, his offense averaged 19.7 points per game, which was 24th in the league. Our offense actually took a step back in points per game average from 2020 to 2021. All that being said, Rivera signed him to an extension in early 2022. Instead of looking to upgrade, he gave a coach with substandard results an extension.
I understand that being "loyal" to the coach mentality to a certain extent. However, how long do we give someone before we form an opinion about them? 1, 2, 5 years? I have seen all I need to see personally. I saw no real improvement from 2020 to 2021 and the play calling has been disappointing to say the least. All I am saying is that Rivera had better options and he didn't take them. We are now going into year 3 so results should have been manifest by this time. I am thinking that Rivera has a 5-year rebuild timeframe in mind obviously. If fans are supposed to be excited about Turner, what evidence can be provided to show that? He might be the next Sean McVay or Andy Reid, that being said, his NFL coaching results to this point have been very lacking and the data shows that.