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Stymietee

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LOL!!

You beat me to it.

If you literally say that to yourself and read it again, it actually sounds like a fireable offense. Our coach literally wanted a 38-year-old journeyman and a QB bust who was run out of town twice in 2 years to take the reins of his team.

And this is the front office you have faith in right Dean? This is the front office that is doing "good" as you say?

According to our beat writer (Keim), we literally called every team in the league looking for a QB. Sports Illustrated said we called "many" teams looking for a QB. I am not sure another front office in the history of the NFL ever started randomly calling every NFL team trying to get a QB.

We are the laughing stock of the NFL. The fact our GM/President/coach had multi offseasons to prep for acquiring a QB and the best he did was Fitzpatrick and Wentz is unacceptable. Hopefully, the nightmare is over after this season.
I get it, everyone wants to win but it is baffling to note the lengths that people will go to in order to seemingly justify moves made by this organization. @Dean displays a classic example of this when he insists that "IF it works out, it will be the greatest trade in team history" on the one hand and "IF it doesn't there's no Gmoney to have to worry about."

Here's a question, the move to get Wince is good for him and it buys time for Rivera, but what of the other 53+ players on this team who sacrifice their short careers on experiments? We all know that they aren't going to get to or win the SB with guys like Fitzpatrick, Heinicke, or Wince. So what's the goal here,? treading water? threatening to make a quick playoff visit? sell empty hope? Well, if that's what RR is doing, then he has to expect that he won't get the very best out of his team because he's not doing the same for them at what's universally become known as the most important position in the game.
 

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I think Dean and others think Wentz is the 2nd coming of Kurt Warner or something. He will magically find his game and lead us to victory! Pederson wanted him out...Reich wanted him out. I have never been given an answer regarding if this concerns people.

Reich actually fell on the sword to Irsay and had to apologize for the gross error. Groveling at the feet of an owner due to the poor play of a QB is something I would think rarely happens. Reich is an offensive guru and he gave up while admitting to the mistake. By all accounts, Matt Ryan is thriving in camp and the team could not be happier. We are idiots!

So...I guess Rivera thinks he is smarter thank Reich and immediately jumped on the phone to Indy...sigh

When do we get out of this circus...anybody???
Exactly!! To me, when it comes to this team, it's a question of what happens when the dog catches its tail? As all dog owners can tell you, the answer is.. the dog will let it go, if it doesn't chew or painfully bite it, and begin chasing it all over again. Like this team, watching it is funny as hell, but it is more often than not a sign of something else that's wrong.
 

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I get it, everyone wants to win but it is baffling to note the lengths that people will go to in order to seemingly justify moves made by this organization. @Dean displays a classic example of this when he insists that "IF it works out, it will be the greatest trade in team history" on the one hand and "IF it doesn't there's no Gmoney to have to worry about."

Here's a question, the move to get Wince is good for him and it buys time for Rivera, but what of the other 53+ players on this team who sacrifice their short careers on experiments? We all know that they aren't going to get to or win the SB with guys like Fitzpatrick, Heinicke, or Wince. So what's the goal here,? treading water? threatening to make a quick playoff visit? sell empty hope? Well, if that's what RR is doing, then he has to expect that he won't get the very best out of his team because he's not doing the same for them at what's universally become known as the most important position in the game.
maybe with the drafting of howell that the wince trade buys him sometime to develop and see what we have with howell in 2 years. an expensive way to do it but its the only thing that makes sense to me plus we get to see what turner's playbook looks like now they have a qb who can make all the throws.
 

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maybe with the drafting of howell that the wince trade buys him sometime to develop and see what we have with howell in 2 years. an expensive way to do it but its the only thing that makes sense to me plus we get to see what turner's playbook looks like now they have a qb who can make all the throws.
You are correct sir!
Howell is the potential QB in waiting at this point and I'm really not trying to be that hard on Wince because he has the tools and probably one of the more gifted teams he's had at his disposal. That trade costs a lot, and buying time is the least that we should expect from Wince.
 

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You are correct sir!
Howell is the potential QB in waiting at this point and I'm really not trying to be that hard on Wince because he has the tools and probably one of the more gifted teams he's had at his disposal. That trade costs a lot, and buying time is the least that we should expect from Wince.
not sure what to think of howell yet . looking forward to seeing him in pre season . i will say it was worth a 5th rounder to find out about him
 

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AGG trying to do a niles paul , could work
 

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not sure what to think of howell yet . looking forward to seeing him in pre season . i will say it was worth a 5th rounder to find out about him
I'm not sure what to think of Howell at this point either, but considering the statement made by @dcrising and looking at the current main players at the position (Wince, Heinicke, Howell) how could he not be the odds-on favorite to have the higher expected chance to take the position if/when Wince falters?
Now, I could be wrong, but I think @dcrising's built-in proviso is one that allows time for Howell to develop.
 

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its not good our 1st round pick is in the boat he is in but its OTAS and for our sake i hope he starts to get it . the new position i think will help
 

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Interesting guy
 

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I think PS
 

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