politics thread

[reptec101]

Nah bro. Just pointing out that some folks seem more concerned with preventing certain people from coming into the country, or chasing HIllary's emails than any sort of real gun control.

The real national emergency isnt men coming here looking for honest work, its not women and children fleeing violence. And its not HIllary's emails. Its the fact that there are more guns in this country than people. And that we can simply say, well damn another mass shooting... oh well.

Seems the real problem for some is Trump and the collusion.. guess gun control becomes a concern when it needs to be. Listen bro,, aint no real gun control gonna stop any kid from shooting classmates. Guns are out there.. aint no bringin em back and putting em back in there shiney wrapper. U wanna address this problem then look logically at the situation. Ifs its daddys guns then charge him with the murders as well. Pretty soon kids wont have the easy access as they do now. Make buying a gun 25 years of age.. but kinda hard when libs are pushing 16 year olds to grow up quick and vote for the man who gave em the right. Aint no answer bro on gun violence. Laws aint gonna do shit. It starts at home. Might I suggest banning insane violent video games. Lets see.. the problem is white youths.. whose the majority who plays those games from 6 to 18.. white youths. Some not stable.. thats right.. the ones who do the shootings. Connect the dots.

 

[Sharkinva]

Seems the real problem for some is Trump and the collusion.. guess gun control becomes a concern when it needs to be. Listen bro,, aint no real gun control gonna stop any kid from shooting classmates. Guns are out there.. aint no bringin em back and putting em back in there shiney wrapper. U wanna address this problem then look logically at the situation. Ifs its daddys guns then charge him with the murders as well. Pretty soon kids wont have the easy access as they do now. Make buying a gun 25 years of age.. but kinda hard when libs are pushing 16 year olds to grow up quick and vote for the man who gave em the right. Aint no answer bro on gun violence. Laws aint gonna do shit. It starts at home. Might I suggest banning insane violent video games. Lets see.. the problem is white youths.. whose the majority who plays those games from 6 to 18.. white youths. Some not stable.. thats right.. the ones who do the shootings. Connect the dots.

WTF was that?? I never said that Guns was just a white problem. I agree, the owner of the gun SHOULD be charged in these situations. If you sell a gun to someone and dont properly track and report it, you are just as liable if that gun is used in a crime. As far as Video Games being the culprit, you dont see Airforce and Navy pilots going ape shit and dive bombing industrial complexes, although i know most of them grew up playing flight simulators. At some point America needs to admit we have a problem with our relationship with guns and thats not just a white thing.

 

[Stymietee]

I need somebody to answer this question

Why is it a problem to have people come to the country legally?

Im being serious.. why is that a problem, and don't tell me it’s not a problem because obviously it is a problem for a bunch on here. If you do say its not a problem than stop bashing Trump wanting to secure the border.

So why is it a problem to have people come to america legally. Simple question.

This is an easy one and the answer is...It's not!

How and why they become people who are willing to leave their homes travel hundreds of miles, sometimes on foot to get to our borders and what process or lack therein to assure legal entry is the issue. Now I know that you're not going to like the answer to either of those issues, but facts are facts. Let's take them one at a time shall we?

Why are they leaving their homes? well, unlike previous administrations our current one doesn't believe in climate issues or science as a result previous aid was drastically cut to help with hunger and other issues arising from the drought that's devastated central America. As a result, an already chronically impoverished region is hit with more crime, crop failures, poverty, the break down of law and order, and unchecked violence that particularly threatens young men and women.


Climate change is contributing to the migration of Central ...
https://www.pri.org/stories/2018-07-15/climate-change-contributing-migration-central...

So, what's the this administrations answer to the underlying causes outlined here?, Trump announced that he will cut all U.S. assistance to El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras, the sources of most of the migrant flow.

The second is that farkin' wall which (a) won't stop the flow and (b) is wasted monies used on something that we should be using it on instead. I hope by now you see the futility of building a wall but just in case, put it this way. Suppose a water main bursts in your yard and the water is flowing in every direction. Would your resolution to this issue really be to close your doors or solve the underlying cause... that is...fix the burst pipe? Why is it wasted? because it could be better used to double the number of immigration judges, processing centers, enforcement/ancilliary personnel and better technology to help our people, help these people!

 

[Stymietee]

God grow a pair and stop pretending that you even care about the name Redskins. When the vast majority of Native Americans could care less...why then do you. If you are so hell bent on a name change then don’t stop here in Washington. Advocate for counties, towns, cities and everything that has a damning PC name attached.. get on the circuit and demand change. One jellybean taking from the jar dont empty the sugary problem. My guess you wont. So With all do respect.. SHFU about a name change. A lot of money (not yours) would would be lost as well as team recognition. Not convinced.. ask the Wizards how that name has helped the franchise.

Did you NOT read that my mother is native American therefore I'm also...

So guess what? you can claim that the vast majority is blah, blah, blah, but how does that change this native American's stance on the issue? Yeah, now you actually know one! Sincere apologies are graciously accepted!

 

[Sharkinva]

Did you NOT read that my mother is native American therefore I'm also...

So guess what? you can claim that the vast majority is blah, blah, blah, but how does that change this native American's stance on the issue? Yeah, now you actually know one!

And this is where they say.. well if the name offends you, you can always go be a Ravens fan.

Translated, dont seek to make something you care for less offensive if it might infringe on my inherent right to be insensitive.

 

[Stymietee]

And this is where they say.. well if the name offends you, you can always go be a Ravens fan.

Translated, dont seek to make something you care for less offensive if it might infringe on my inherent right to be insensitive.

I'm sure that he didn't know, and that's why I didn't go hard at him.

 

[Stymietee]

IM still trying to figure out how realizing that Trump is BAD for most if not all of the rational people in the country, automatically made Obama our guy, or Hillary our girl??

I voted for Trump, I was willing to give him a chance. I was WRONG and he is going to rip the country apart and make money in the process.

Perhaps there should be a permanent space on federal ballots reserved for "No confidence" or "None of the above."

 

[Sharkinva]

Perhaps there should be a permanent space on federal ballots reserved for "No confidence" or "None of the above."

But then what happens when None of the Above wins the electoral college??

 

[reptec101]

I'm sure that he didn't know, and that's why I didn't go hard at him.

So you’re half native american. You’re one out of millions. As I stated the vast majority dont find the name offensive.. or dont care. I do apologize to you for the remark grow a pair since you have a horse in the race but the price this organization would pay (all aspects) would be staggering. Snyder is a businessman first.. caring to feelings ... 5th.

Two things im tired of talking about. Collusion with Trump that aint there and Redskin name change with Snyder there. Didn't and aint happening on either’s watch.

 

[Stymietee]

When the next liberal president takes office and welcomes the masses open your arms and welcome in half of Central America. You just lost the country btw. When programs and policies are then outfitted to help those (illegals) who will be in need... than those of us (tax payers) who are forced to flip the bill as we watch our american families take a back seat on tuition, health care and equal law.. you will have a civil uprising. Fun times ahead.

Here's the thing, ANY person Republican or Democrat who is fit for office would most likely do the right thing in terms of immigration. The immigration issues under Obama weren't half the issue it's become under Trump and the reason is...he's unfit for the office and like the whiney little bitch that he is, doesn't have a clue about fixing root causes. That of course require reading about things, studying geopolitics, science and expressing the true heart of the American people as Ronald Reagan emphasized, "America is a shining city upon a hill whose beacon light guides freedom-loving people everywhere."

 

[Stymietee]

But then what happens when None of the Above wins the electoral college??

New elections or better the way it used to be when vice presidential candidates were elected separately!

 

[reptec101]

WTF was that?? I never said that Guns was just a white problem. [/B]I agree, the owner of the gun SHOULD be charged in these situations. If you sell a gun to someone and dont properly track and report it, you are just as liable if that gun is used in a crime. As far as Video Games being the culprit, you dont see Airforce and Navy pilots going ape shit and dive bombing industrial complexes, although i know most of them grew up playing flight simulators. At some point America needs to admit we have a problem with our relationship with guns and thats not just a white thing.

I never said you did... I said school shootings are a white youth problem. Violent games have been around for 20 plus years.. dont remember hearing about all these school shootings 20 plus years ago. As for pilots dive bombing I mentioned only unstable people to begin with do the shootings. Military weed the nut jobs out early. I just see a connection between the two. Perhaps Im wrong.

 

[Stymietee]

But then what happens when None of the Above wins the electoral college??

Also, one of us could actually change our name to "None of the above!" What could go wrong?

 

[Stymietee]

So you’re half native american. You’re one out of millions. As I stated the vast majority dont find the name offensive.. or dont care. I do apologize to you for the remark grow a pair since you have a horse in the race but the price this organization would pay (all aspects) would be staggering. Snyder is a businessman first.. caring to feelings ... 5th.

Two things im tired of talking about. Collusion with Trump that aint there and Redskin name change with Snyder there. Didn't and aint happening on either’s watch.

No problem! I knew that you didn't realize that as I was reading your post.

here are tons of us with mixed parentage, Some native American tribes owned slaves too! There's also tons of us who are fans of the team and also interested in changing the name. Two things can be true at the same time, ya know!

Here's something to consider, when the non issue of collusion comes up, perhaps you could join in and let them know that collusion is not a crime!

As for the name change, since you seem to have a particular bend towards what the vast majority of people feel, do what the vast majority does here...ignore it!

 

[Sharkinva]

I never said you did... I said school shootings are a white youth problem. Violent games have been around for 20 plus years.. dont remember hearing about all these school shootings 20 plus years ago. As for pilots dive bombing I mentioned only unstable people to begin with do the shootings. Military weed the nut jobs out early. I just see a connection between the two. Perhaps Im wrong.

20 years ago you didnt have 70% of the country with internet access or 24 hr cable news. Guns were still an issue, as I do remember most inner city schools having metal detectors long before Call of Duty or Grand Theft auto were on console. BAck then it was Dungeons & Dragons was going to turn us all into devil worshipers.

 

[gkekoa]

There is no problem with having people come legally. The reality is, coming legally has been for generations based not on merit as some would suggest, but on country of origin. And thats where the issue is.

When you arrange the legal way to stop people because you want people of a different culture more, then coming legally becomes code for.. well we just dont want people from where you come from.

Wouldn’t merit be based on education and wealth, with the ability to take care of yourself being paramount? Would you like to compare Europe to South America or Africa in those regards?

I want the best from other countries...take their best players and their money and bring them here.

 

[gkekoa]

Nah bro. Just pointing out that some folks seem more concerned with preventing certain people from coming into the country, or chasing HIllary's emails than any sort of real gun control.

The real national emergency isnt men coming here looking for honest work, its not women and children fleeing violence. And its not HIllary's emails. Its the fact that there are more guns in this country than people. And that we can simply say, well damn another mass shooting... oh well.

I am all for going after those emails over gun control. Gun control is unConstitutional.

You see mass shootings as a major issue; however, if you take away gang violence, we are no different than every other European nation. But go ahead and blame the guns and not the gangs.

 

[Stymietee]

Seems the real problem for some is Trump and the collusion.. guess gun control becomes a concern when it needs to be. Listen bro,, aint no real gun control gonna stop any kid from shooting classmates. Guns are out there.. aint no bringin em back and putting em back in there shiney wrapper. U wanna address this problem then look logically at the situation. Ifs its daddys guns then charge him with the murders as well. Pretty soon kids wont have the easy access as they do now. Make buying a gun 25 years of age.. but kinda hard when libs are pushing 16 year olds to grow up quick and vote for the man who gave em the right. Aint no answer bro on gun violence. Laws aint gonna do shit. It starts at home. Might I suggest banning insane violent video games. Lets see.. the problem is white youths.. whose the majority who plays those games from 6 to 18.. white youths. Some not stable.. thats right.. the ones who do the shootings. Connect the dots.

Check these two articles out:

Demographic Trends of Gun Ownership in the U.S.
https://www.thoughtco.com/who-really-owns-guns-3026230

There's a gun for every American. Less than 1/3 own guns ...
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/15/politics/guns-dont-know-how-many-america/index.ht

 

[Sharkinva]

Wouldn’t merit be based on education and wealth, with the ability to take care of yourself being paramount? Would you like to compare Europe to South America or Africa in those regards?

I want the best from other countries...take their best players and their money and bring them here.

News flash sparky... educated wealthy people from Europe are not flocking to the US in droves, or even trickling in for that matter. People migrate for one of two reasons

1. A better opportunity than what they have
2. Safety

So much like the early 1900's the people that are coming here from Europe are coming in hopes of making a better life, most are unskilled and dont have that magic wealth you speak of.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I do listen to conservative radio, I believe it's important to hear from both sides. I can't tell you how many times I have heard things such as "Democrats hate America". This is the crap their audience hears and buys. How am I supposed to react to that nonsense? The same way you guys react to the lies spread by CNN obviously.

So you see just as all Presidents lie so does the media, on both sides. So it's kind of disingenuous for you to call out one side and give the other a complete pass.

@skinsdad62 didn't seem to want to reply to this post. I'm thinking he knows if he does he will be exposed as a hypocrite. Again if you listen to conservative sources and "I know what I'm getting" when you do what you are getting is biased, right wing coverage. This is not my opinion, it's without debate. So what you are doing is no different than what we are doing when we turn into NBC so you really don't have much of a right to continue to bash the liberal MSM when your opinion is being formed by biased sources as well.