politics thread

[Sharkinva]

Gays should also never be banned to serve in our military unless they would run like a sissy at the first sound of gunfire... like I probably would

I served with a Gay Marine and a Gay Seal who both have more commitment to this country than our current leader and to this day I would trust either of them not only with my life, but the life of my children or grand children..

 

[reptec101]

I dont know ask Obama supporters

And still the Trump haters on here can't see how the media influences them. So Trump is a blatant liar... first among politicians as I understand. Too funny.

 

[reptec101]

I served with a Gay Marine and a Gay Seal who both have more commitment to this country than our current leader and to this day I would trust either of them not only with my life, but the life of my children or grand children..

Trumps commitment to this country is by far more than your two buddies and im sure they have awesome commitment. I have no grudge on gay people. Let them serve and let them live as I do. In my opinion God created all men so if these people have a chromosome or two missing so be it. They're alright by me. God will judge. I'm not born into this world to judge anyone.

 

[Sharkinva]

Trumps commitment to this country is by far more than your two buddies and im sure they have awesome commitment. I have no grudge on gay people. Let them serve and let them live as I do. In my opinion God created all men so if these people have a chromosome or two missing so be it. They're alright by me. God will judge. I'm not born into this world to judge anyone.

Do you think Trump would give his life to protect this country?? Because I know Sween and Cathridge would without question.

 

[reptec101]

Do you think Trump would give his life to protect this country?? Because I know Sween and Cathridge would without question.

Yea,,, ya got me there,, stand corrected.

 

[gkekoa]

Do you think Trump would give his life to protect this country?? Because I know Sween and Cathridge would without question.

Hmmm...I served more recently than you and knew exactly zero gays in the military, but you know two...a marine and a seal?

 

[Sharkinva]

Hmmm...I served more recently than you and knew exactly zero gays in the military, but you know two...a marine and a seal?

Possible people didnt feel comfortable being themselves around you??

Just a thought.

 

[gkekoa]

Possible people didnt feel comfortable being themselves around you??

Just a thought.

All things are possible...highly unlikely.

So...you served with a marine and a seal? Hmmm...doesn’t really add up. What did you do in the military?

 

[Sharkinva]

All things are possible...highly unlikely.

So...you served with a marine and a seal? Hmmm...doesn’t really add up. What did you do in the military?

I did communications in the Marines. And you know, gay people do occasionally actually become couples. And just as my Straight Marine friends would introduce me to their girlfriends or boyfriends.. you know Gay folks do that to with people they

1. Trust
2. Dont feel they will be Judged by for their life style.

I know its hard to accept that gay people could have possibly served when you were in, but the reality is that 6.5% of service members openly report as gay, another 4-6% have not self reported. SO if 10% of the service is gay, odds are you knew at least 1 of the 10% of the military that was gay when you served, even if you didnt know it.

 

[Stymietee]

You still should respect the position held and help and support him to succeed in every way you can and not bevy up a barrage of BS from day one to alter his ability to serve as acting president. Or would you rather we become a nation who just can't accept it when the other candidate wins and does everything in their power to take him down as the dumocrats have been doing. Two can play the game. A government divided cannot stand. I know I know,,, Trump has caused the division blah blah blah

Here's what you don't or refuse to understand, from the beginning this person was and remains unfit for elected office of any kind. He has a long history of corruption and skirting the edges of the law. He's literally stolen millions of dollars from people by using that same legal system to either intimidate small business from trying to collect monies that he actually owed them or sued know full well that the cost of litigation was far greater than monies owed to other small businesses. No bank within the borders of this country would do business with him and thus far the ONLY one on the planet that will is owned and operated with the blessings of the Kremlin.

Look, support whomever you like, that is your right, but don't pretend to know what you don't know! I get it and I'm sure that the counter argument will be, "well he got elected" and that's certain, but any counter argument about liking his "policies" or supporting the office is severely shortsighted and dangerous. So let's play on your turf. Forget the asshole that he is, let's forgo his policies, and we'll not talk about his history. In exchange let's talk about your love of country. Earlier you made an attempt to defend him against destroying the rule of law, remember? You actually wrote... "We are def not a country of laws... at least equally" and also claim some sort of stranglehold on logic, which happens to be at question when you post contradictory statements like this (I'll wait for your response because you still won't get it.) Now if you're honest, you'll admit that your "logical mind" is nothing more than supposition and emotion. A logical mind also looks at the bigger picture and not simply "policies" that you like or the office. Any attack on the rule of law threatens us all and the country no matter who's in office or what policies he/she brings with them. Get it?

 

[Stymietee]

Thank you for recognizing. It pains me sometimes to comment on this illogical thread but I do my best.

I know that you're joking because logic isn't your strong suit, so understand something, when your "logic" is superseded by facts, that is not being logical at all. There are names for this sort of blather but there are rules here against name calling.

 

[Stymietee]

My support is to the president of the US. If my candidate didn't win then I got the back of the other. I'm not trying to tear him a new asshole every second of the day with made up bullshit. In fact, I probably would stay off debate threads since I wouldn't be following his every move just waiting to pounce. Now once out of office he's fair game. I'm only on this thread defending a man since nobody shares my sentiment in respecting the office unless he's your guy. Now, if any president completely destroys our world order and thrust us into wars as the econmy collapses I reserve the right to bash him with all you other good folks.

And yet you refuse to "bash" Trump when he clearly is trying to upend the rule of law (see: Constitution)... Illogical!

 

[Stymietee]

Very true. Me having to pay for somebody else is wrong. Let them die or allow me to give freely. Don’t force people to give money to other people.

I agree about taxing weed instead of putting people in prison and taking more of my money. Shark said it was greed that caused weed to be legal and that isn’t logical.

You wrote: " Me having to pay for somebody else is wrong." and I'll tell you that you will do that in one way or the other. Ever wonder why the cost of aspirin ( about $25 per pill in hospital) is so high? Well because the insured are paying for the additional costs of devices/equipment, along with costs associated with the uninsured. Be honest, wouldn't it be much better and more beneficial to the consumer if those costs were controlled with your input? Well, that is what a national healthcare system is all about...controlling costs!

Now we can argue about how best to do this, and anyone who suggests that it shouldn't or can't be done, is actually arguing against the greatness of a people who has a history of, and through collective will could take the very best parts of nationalized healthcare throughout the world, put that unique American touch to it and create a world class system that would be instantly the envy of the world! BTW: I've already thought about it, and I'm not running for president!

 

[Stymietee]

Not to the extent he divided us since I have been alive.

Shouldn’t you also be saying the same thing to people saying Trump divides us?

Therein lies the rub! Knowing the difference between a teachable moment and divisiveness by race seems to be lost on those who appear ready to equate what Obama did and what Trump is doing. Do you honestly believe that a beer summit bringing two differing points of view together in order to talk it through or at minimum set an example as to how it can be done, is the same as supporting a group that marched through an American city shouting, "Jews will not replace us!" are equal?

 

[Stymietee]

That's one dude. Trump faces the whole media army each and every day. just a tad different there I would say.

Let's actually use some logic here, let's see if you can keep up. Ready??… When a president says something and it's repeated back to him verbatim in the form of a question by that "whole media army" and he denies ever saying the original thing, again, which is on video, why wouldn't they take a negative view of that same president, who, by his own denials isn't worthy of benefit of doubt? It is, after all, part of his job!

This is why you're one of the most illogical posters on the thread. Logic would have compelled you to ask and answer the question "why?" the answer would have then led you to never post nonsense like "Trump faces the whole media army each and every day. just a tad different there I would say."

 

[Stymietee]

again absolutely not , every major topic discussed here has been liberal

Did you intentionally use that comma?

 

[Stymietee]

This debate thread started after his presidency was over so I can't enlighten you. By the way, even though I found it wrong while acting as president I never cared about Clinton getting a snarling and using his cigar like a dildo on Monica inside the prestious oval office... yet you have a fit over Trump "saying" grab her pussy. I mean perhaps Im wrong but it seems Bills balls don't weigh as much as Trumps in your view. Selective outrage at its finest.

Geeezzz dude, I know that you're doing your best, but think before you post! Clinton was impeached in part for that but that's besides the point. You've actually used your perspective on Clinton and his on Trump as if they both belonged to him. What's worse you then tried to cover yourself by citing "selective outrage" as your main point when in fact, it wasn't and had no bearing on those two different things.

Here are the facts, you, as is true for all of us, should be just as outraged over what Trump has done as you and almost the entire country was when Clinton did what he did. How do you know that @chillerdab wasn't as pissed at Clinton? You have already claimed that you don't often frequent the thread. Does it REALLY make any difference to you where a misdeed was perpetuated against young women or by whom? Really?

Go ahead, it's OK, say (actually type) it... "Donald Trump was wrong for grabbing pussies and deserves no less than what Bill Clinton got, a vote on censure, whether he was in office when he did it or not!" Can't bring your "logical mind" around to doing it? OK, use the same logic that was levied against Clinton and imagine that the young women in question was your mom, sister or daughter!

 

[Stymietee]

What was totally awesome was when I heard Trump fans complain that Obama never worked hard. They voted for a guy who literally said during the campaign "I won't have time to play golf, I'll be in Washington working". What do they say about that? I think we both know that answer.

 

[Stymietee]

Never but they have the ability to sway voters to get rid of those they don’t like. That is far more powerful and lasting.

The media tried very hard to sink Kavanaugh...unjustly.

The ONLY thing unjustly done was denying Merrick Garland a confirmation hearing. Factually, the media had no influence whatsoever on Kavanaugh, the seat was already usurped and seating Kavanaugh was literally guaranteed having it. McConnell did that despite all claims that the media tried to stop the process, which is blatantly untrue! McConnell owned the process!

 

[Stymietee]

Trumps commitment to this country is by far more than your two buddies and im sure they have awesome commitment.

BULL AND/OR SHIT!! Cowards aren't committed to anything beyond their own well being. Remember your "run like a sissy" comment? Well Trump did exactly that by getting all of those deferments instead of stepping up like a fuckin' man! Don't ever, compare that whiney little bitch to any of us who put our lives on the line when the country needed us to do that!