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ReFo: Bengals @ Steelers, Week 15

Khaled Elsayed | December 16, 2013






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In a disappointing season for the Pittsburgh Steelers they could at least put a smile on their fans faces by inflicting some misery on their divisional rivals, the Cincinnati Bengals. In an advert for the importance of special teams the Steelers took advantage of some mishaps with their opponents snapping, catching and coverage units to score 14 points that would prove too big a gap for Andy Dalton to eat into.

For Mike Tomlin and his men this is a chance to end the season with some momentum, while Marvin Lewis will have to look at this as a severe wakeup call as we approach the business end of the year. They may get away with making them in December and live to fight another day, but performances like this in January might lead to another one and done postseason.

Bengals – Three Performances of Note

Impotent Pass Rush

You won’t often see Ben Roethlisberger given as easy a ride as he was on Sunday Night Football. Heading into the game he’d been pressured on 186 of his 549 dropbacks (33.9%), but the Bengals (who blitzed only five times) got pressure on just 15.4% of passing plays. Some of this was down to the conditions that saw the Steelers go screen pass happy, but with an average time to throw of 2.46 seconds, there was time to get at Big Ben.

Instead premier pass rushers Michael Johnson and Carlos Dunlap converted just three of their combined 50 pass rushes into pressure, with Dunlap the only player to have multiple quarterback disruptions with one of those on a stunt the Steelers were slow picking up, and the other one where the Steelers QB held onto the ball for over 7 seconds before finding Antonio Brown in the endzone (2:24). This isn’t to slam either player who both walked away with positive grades thanks to what has become their calling card (excellent work in the run game), but if the team wants to progress they need these two to step up and make life hard for opposing quarterbacks.

Playing like a Backup

It’s easy to forget that Dre Kirkpatrick (-4.5) is a former first round pick. Most teams are desperate to get their high selections on the field but it’s taken injuries to Leon Hall and now Terence Newman to force the Bengals to start him, and it’s not hard to see why they’re so reluctant. Although his day in coverage wasn’t a disaster (4-of-5 for 47 yards and a touchdown) you wonder how much the Steelers game plan protected him in that regard. His work in the run game saw him miss four tackles. Time is on his side as a second year player but patience will start wearing thin if he doesn’t start repaying the investment in him.

Acceptable Andy

Invariably the Bengals’ fate tends to be tied to the play of Andy Dalton. When he’s good they’re unstoppable and when he’s bad they’re on the ropes. Or something along those lines. Well not in this game as he was something of a peripheral figure in deciding why the Bengals lost this one. He was accurate enough with an adjusted accuracy percentage of 73.2% while it was his receivers who need to hang their heads as they combined to drop five passes and as they struggled holding onto balls when hearing footsteps from Steelers defenders. He was never going to challenge Pittsburgh downfield with the wind as it was but if anything the team should come out of this game more confident in him than when they went in.

Steelers – Three Performances of Note

Linebackers Step Up

When you’re starting inside linebacker pairing earn a combined +5.4 grade, things tend to go well on defense. Sure Vince Williams was limited to 29 snaps, but in their base package he combined extremely effectively with the superb Lawrence Timmons to impact the Bengals’ ability to run the ball. Any hesitation from the Bengals’ linemen was pounced upon by Timmons especially, who was quick to dissect and attack the ball carrier, as evidenced by his tackle for a loss with 7.15 to go in the game as Mike Pollak spent a fraction too long helping out on a double team. It’s not been his most consistent year but Timmons can still produce the goods like few linebackers out there.

DeCastro Shines

Engaged in a power struggle with Brandon Thompson for most of the game David DeCastro (+4.0) just about came out on top, though the strength of his grades owes more to the work he did against other players. In truth he and Thompson exchanged blows throughout, with Thompson looking the more powerful man when it came to holding his ground, while the athleticism of DeCastro saw him get the win when he was sealing off the Bengal. Others didn’t have quite so much joy as DeCastro showed off his full repertoire, such as when he pulled to the second level and wiped out both Rey Maualuga and Wallace Gilberry with a cut block (Q2, 2.14) or when he took over a double team on Domata Peko and drove him downfield and to the ground (Q2, 5.06). For a line that has needed retooling for some time the play of 2012 first round pick DeCastro in his first full year has been a massive bonus, with only his recent form before this game taking the shine off a possible Pro Bowl year.

Two Sides of Jarvis

While Lamarr Woodley got the start it was first round pick Jarvis Jones (-0.5) who saw the majority of action with 69 of 71 snaps played. Again he flashed at times but, as has been the case for most of the year, left you with the impression he’d been on the field far less given how anonymous he was at times.

On the plus side he did handedly beat Anthony Collins for a pressure (Q2, 14.41) but thereafter rarely threatened to hassle Dalton, with the closest he would get coming when Collins would trip over the ankle of Andrew Whitworth. In the run game there was more to like, as he displayed a quick inside move to twice get the kind of penetration that would force backfield cuts from Bengals backs, but again you couldn’t help but want a little more from him. A tad disappointing in year one so far and a big leap will be expected in year two.

Game Notes

- It was a rough night for Kevin Huber. He botched a snap that would leave the Steelers offense on the field on the Bengals 1-yard line, hit a poor kick that was returned for a touchdown, and in the process took a big hit that knocked him for the game.

- Emmanuel Sanders forced an incredible six missed tackles, including three on one play (Q4, 5.38).

- All game long both quarterbacks combined to attempt just two passes over 20 yards in the air. One was picked off, the other was incomplete.
 

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So Dre sucks? Hmmm.... Hard to tell.
 

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Doug -- I'm giving you a -3 for the week. If you would stop with the flowery shit, we could get back to winning. I'm blaming your confidence in Marvin Lewis.
 

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What flowery shit? Life is too short to always be negative. I'm still as realistic as always. I know who we have been for 20+ years. Sooner or later I'll either get one right or I'll die. Nothing I have said wasn't true. And it's still true. They are still in total control of their destiny. I'm tired of the board's overwhelmingly defeatist attitude. As for Dre, he's just going to have to play better, or Zimmer needs to figure out how to hide him until Newman is back.
 

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I see absolutely no reason not to continue to be confident. I was confident before both the San Diego and Indy games and those turned out just fine. One loss at Pittsburgh isn't going to derail my confidence.
 

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I see absolutely no reason not to continue to be confident. I was confident before both the San Diego and Indy games and those turned out just fine. One loss at Pittsburgh isn't going to derail my confidence.

I'm with you. Special teams is usually a strong point for the Bengals. Take away the 14 points by the special teams, and the offense and defense did enough to win.

It was a loss, and it sucked. It seems worse only because B-more was able to beat Detroit. In the end, the Bengals control their own destiny. Win out, and it doesn't matter.

Heck, we can also hope for a win this week and NE getting lucky on the road against B-more.
 

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Agreed. Everyone needs to chill out. I hope they come out Sunday pissed off and ready to kick someone's ass. Remember when we sucked at Miami? We rebounded.. Sucked in Baltimore? We rebounded. We sucked last week...

We will rebound.
 

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We could root for a Dolphins loss...

A Patriots loss to Baltimore...

A Bengals win against Minnesota...

Bengals vs. Ravens week 17.....Bengals playing for a divison crown and a #2 seed. Ravens playing for a division crown and to knock Cincinnati back into the 6th seed.

This way, we are playing for that #2 seed still, but if we lose, we are still in the playoffs, we just have to probably go to Indy and play the Colts indoors.

I think this is the ideal situation for us as fans. Everything still on the line in week 17, a chance for a #2 seed, but if we fail, we still get to go to the playoffs, this time to Indy instead of Houston, an Indy team we already beat pretty well.
 

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We could root for a Dolphins loss...

A Patriots loss to Baltimore...

A Bengals win against Minnesota...

Bengals vs. Ravens week 17.....Bengals playing for a divison crown and a #2 seed. Ravens playing for a division crown and to knock Cincinnati back into the 6th seed.

This way, we are playing for that #2 seed still, but if we lose, we are still in the playoffs, we just have to probably go to Indy and play the Colts indoors.

I think this is the ideal situation for us as fans. Everything still on the line in week 17, a chance for a #2 seed, but if we fail, we still get to go to the playoffs, this time to Indy instead of Houston, an Indy team we already beat pretty well.

2 seed, 3 seed or nothing for me. If we don't win the division I don't want to be in the playoffs this season. I guess I could deal with a 4 seed if Indy wins out and we lose to Minny. But losing to Baltimore and sliding into the wild card position is a deal breaker because we know what happens next.
 

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the only way this beat up haphazard team gets in is if the Ravens or Dolphins lay an egg this week, and Dolphins are mammals, so don't count on that.
 

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the only way this beat up haphazard team gets in is if the Ravens or Dolphins lay an egg this week, and Dolphins are mammals, so don't count on that.

I see what you did there.

very clever
 

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2 seed, 3 seed or nothing for me. If we don't win the division I don't want to be in the playoffs this season. I guess I could deal with a 4 seed if Indy wins out and we lose to Minny. But losing to Baltimore and sliding into the wild card position is a deal breaker because we know what happens next.

Going to Indy in the first round would not be that bad.

I am still hoping the Dolphins lose, Bengals and Ravens win.

That sets up an epic week 17, and if we fail, our runner up prize is heading to Indy for a wildcard round appearance.
 

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Fuck a bunch of runner up prizes....kick their ass or go home......
 

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Fuck a bunch of runner up prizes....kick their ass or go home......

Playoffs are a different season. Once you are there anything can happen, but you can't do that unless you make it.

Fuck all or nothing in week 17. I would love the chance to play for that #2 seed in week 17 and win the division, but if there are injuries or soemthing goes a little wrong, or the refs fuck up a play or two that change the course of a game, to be fucked because of a ref, and miss the playoffs because of it, I could not live with it. I would have to go on a killing spree.
 

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All I'm saying is that when the general vibe of this board is negative, we tend to play extremely well.

Can you guys at least fake some amount of disappointment? It's for the team!
 

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Playoffs are a different season. Once you are there anything can happen, but you can't do that unless you make it.

Fuck all or nothing in week 17. I would love the chance to play for that #2 seed in week 17 and win the division, but if there are injuries or soemthing goes a little wrong, or the refs fuck up a play or two that change the course of a game, to be fucked because of a ref, and miss the playoffs because of it, I could not live with it. I would have to go on a killing spree.

I'm actually okay with the win and in week 17 chance. I'd rather play Baltimore at home in week 17 with a chance for a round 1 bye, than have another shitty road game in the wild card round. I think we can win that game and it would set us up for a home game against a team we could beat. In some ways, week 17 would be like our wild card round.... I think the last thing any of us wants is a playoff appearance without a win.
 

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All I'm saying is that when the general vibe of this board is negative, we tend to play extremely well.

Can you guys at least fake some amount of disappointment? It's for the team!

The general vibe of this board is most always negative, even going back to the old espn days. How many Super Bowls has that won for us? We've always "known our role".

Time to try something different. At least this time when we go down we go down swinging, instead of just tapping out before the season ends.

And I still believe these guys are capable of making a run.
 

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The general vibe of this board is most always negative, even going back to the old espn days. How many Super Bowls has that won for us? We've always "known our role".

Time to try something different. At least this time when we go down we go down swinging, instead of just tapping out before the season ends.

And I still believe these guys are capable of making a run.

I remember being quite optimistic about our chances back in the 80s. Then I got punched in the stomach by Joe Montana. Now I just expect the worst.

To be honest, I like the way this roster has been constructed and I think we have a good team. It bothers me though that we still play like we're carrying the past few decades with us. It's time to step up and win.
 

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Rey M must have walked in on Marvin while he was doing something naughty. Now he has blackmail against him or something.

It's weird things like missing blown coverages and doing completely wrong things, the Bengals often lose the mental battles and that leads to disappointment.
 

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I remember being quite optimistic about our chances back in the 80s. Then I got punched in the stomach by Joe Montana. Now I just expect the worst.

To be honest, I like the way this roster has been constructed and I think we have a good team. It bothers me though that we still play like we're carrying the past few decades with us. It's time to step up and win.

I guess I'm trying to force it, but that's what has spurred on my confident attitude. If we could just win a game that really matters once, it could snowball into something special. It would at least get one monkey off the team's back. I'm just not going to accept our former role. I expect better, and we deserve better for sticking by these guys for the last 25 years.
 
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