Perine

[gkekoa]

I had originally mentioned that I thought Mixon was better at changing direction than Perrine who seemed to be more of a straight away runner.

Take Franco Harris, one of the great NFL runners. I never really thought he was great until I saw him in person. He knew when to cut, change directions, and spin out of the grip of others. That's what made him great.

I just see that in Mixon.

Time will tell. Injuries and Roger Goodell have a way of changing careers.

You did and I didn't give you a hard time about it. I did question it lengthening careers.

Of course I am going to question you when you say it is based off of their professional careers only because both have done nothing. They sure aren't Kareem Hunt...my fantasy team bitches.

Will everyone leave me alone on Perrine and Mixon. I just gave an opinion and some of you want to hire Tom Cruise and his mission impossible team to find out the truth. My thoughts are an opinion, nothing more. Peace, peace.

I won't leave you alone because it is a message board. You are entitled to an opinion and I can ask why...even if I agree with you. If you believe something, you should be able to say why and it shouldn't make you look stupid.

Even if you are wrong, no big deal. I predicted Christian McCaffery would go in the second round. He went 8. I had an intelligent reason to believe he would go later...oops, I was wrong. Currently, Carolina probably wishes he went later. They are all rookies. Nothing is proven, yet.

 

[olympicoscar]

You did and I didn't give you a hard time about it. I did question it lengthening careers.

Of course I am going to question you when you say it is based off of their professional careers only because both have done nothing. They sure aren't Kareem Hunt...my fantasy team bitches.





I won't leave you alone because it is a message board. You are entitled to an opinion and I can ask why...even if I agree with you. If you believe something, you should be able to say why and it shouldn't make you look stupid.

Even if you are wrong, no big deal. I predicted Christian McCaffery would go in the second round. He went 8. I had an intelligent reason to believe he would go later...oops, I was wrong. Currently, Carolina probably wishes he went later. They are all rookies. Nothing is proven, yet.

Ok, good answer. I watched them in college and in the pros, a little of course, and always felt that if either made it, it would be Mixon. Of course neither might make it or both. It's just an opinion and neither of us can prove we are correct until a couple of years down the road.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Will everyone leave me alone on Perrine and Mixon. I just gave an opinion and some of you want to hire Tom Cruise and his mission impossible team to find out the truth. My thoughts are an opinion, nothing more. Peace, peace.

Huh? You are taking this the wrong way. You indicated that Goodell & injuries have a way of changing careers. I was just piggybacking on that by saying the O line also plays a major role (RBs don't do things on their own - ask Elliott). I was also pointing out that the Bengals have a terrible O line which is pretty much a fact.

BTW - if you want to be left alone then I would suggest that you stay off the Internet & forums such as this one. Peace to you also.

 

[olympicoscar]

Huh? You are taking this the wrong way. You indicated that Goodell & injuries have a way of changing careers. I was just piggybacking on that by saying the O line also plays a major role (RBs don't do things on their own - ask Elliott). I was also pointing out that the Bengals have a terrible O line which is pretty much a fact.

BTW - if you want to be left alone then I would suggest that you stay off the Internet & forums such as this one. Peace to you also.

Ok, all I was saying is enough is enough. It's impossible to establish who is going to be better because of several x factors such as injuries, Goodall, and yes offensive lines. Also if you have a lousy team and constantly fall behind, you won't get much of a chance to run. 5 yard gains when you're down 21 points won't cut it.

All I'm saying about the leave me alone is that there is no way to prove anything at this point. I gave my opinion, a lot of you disagree, you may be right, or you may be wrong or we both may be wrong.

 

[gkekoa]

Ok, all I was saying is enough is enough. It's impossible to establish who is going to be better because of several x factors such as injuries, Goodall, and yes offensive lines. Also if you have a lousy team and constantly fall behind, you won't get much of a chance to run. 5 yard gains when you're down 21 points won't cut it.

All I'm saying about the leave me alone is that there is no way to prove anything at this point. I gave my opinion, a lot of you disagree, you may be right, or you may be wrong or we both may be wrong.

The funny thing is nobody really disagreed with your statement.

I simply disagreed with your statement on judging them by their professional careers, after two games. I also questioned your idea of a shorter career because he is a bruiser.

 

[olympicoscar]

The funny thing is nobody really disagreed with your statement.

I simply disagreed with your statement on judging them by their professional careers, after two games. I also questioned your idea of a shorter career because he is a bruiser.

Ok, I get it.

 

[gkekoa]

Ok, I get it.

Good. Honestly though. What fun is having an opinion and stating it, if nobody questions you?

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Ok, all I was saying is enough is enough. It's impossible to establish who is going to be better because of several x factors such as injuries, Goodall, and yes offensive lines. Also if you have a lousy team and constantly fall behind, you won't get much of a chance to run. 5 yard gains when you're down 21 points won't cut it.

All I'm saying about the leave me alone is that there is no way to prove anything at this point. I gave my opinion, a lot of you disagree, you may be right, or you may be wrong or we both may be wrong.

NP - it is all in fun. Mixon is going to be in an interesting situation since the Bengals are so bad rt now. He may have limited chances to run for the reason that you stated. However he may also get more chances later in the season when the Bengals basically throw in the towel & start giving more time to younger players like Mixon. Amazing that this team totally neglected the O line. If Lewis is fired then they also need to make major changes in the FO.

 

[olympicoscar]

NP - it is all in fun. Mixon is going to be in an interesting situation since the Bengals are so bad rt now. He may have limited chances to run for the reason that you stated. However he may also get more chances later in the season when the Bengals basically throw in the towel & start giving more time to younger players like Mixon. Amazing that this team totally neglected the O line. If Lewis is fired then they also need to make major changes in the FO.

Yeah there are so many factors that affect success that it's impossible to be correct all the time. For instance a player could be drafted into a climate, culture, or city that he personally hates. That can definitely impact on success. It's not something that's talked about a lot because players generally don't want to cause problems with the fans.

Based on my own life experiences, if I was a player, draft eligible, the only places I would want to go are Cleveland, any Texas or California franchise.

 

[Stymietee]

How so?

I was going to write something like this myself, but instead here's his draft analysis, see for yourself and be convinced that we are among a majority in the NFL who do not have a feature guy like this:

BTW: before I get the expected, "if he's so good why can't he start in Cincy? question, short answer is that Coaches handle rookies differently, some start right away, others don't, even when the more talented rookie is in place. Trust is generally the reasoning.

ANYWAY THIS IS HIS DRAFT PROFILE:

Strengths
Outstanding burst to go from first level to third level. Goes from glide to burst quickly and can hit chunk plays between tackles and around corners. Can go from elusive to banger when he needs to. Will drop the pads and drive through tacklers in short yardage spots. Flashy feet for his size. Can jump-cut around defenders in tight quarters. Smooth hips help him swivel around the second and third levels. Able to show and go leaving linebackers diving as he escapes out of the side door. Strong stiff-arm helps would-be tacklers catch grass stains. Can turn the corner and create a straightaway to the end zone. Was Big 12 leader in percentage of explosive carries (15-plus yards) at 11.9 percent. True three-down back. Devastating pass catching option. Excellent route runner creating immediate separation. Soft hands to make the easy catch and the one-hander. Will step in and square up his blocking responsibilities in pass game.

 

[Stymietee]

NP - it is all in fun. Mixon is going to be in an interesting situation since the Bengals are so bad rt now. He may have limited chances to run for the reason that you stated. However he may also get more chances later in the season when the Bengals basically throw in the towel & start giving more time to younger players like Mixon. Amazing that this team totally neglected the O line. If Lewis is fired then they also need to make major changes in the FO.

If Marvin is fired, there's a real good chance that the new HC there will want to bring in his type guys. Much like buffalo and their off season fire sale, there may be players available for us to get. Stay tuned!!

 

[Stymietee]

Ok, all I was saying is enough is enough. It's impossible to establish who is going to be better because of several x factors such as injuries, Goodall, and yes offensive lines. Also if you have a lousy team and constantly fall behind, you won't get much of a chance to run. 5 yard gains when you're down 21 points won't cut it.

All I'm saying about the leave me alone is that there is no way to prove anything at this point. I gave my opinion, a lot of you disagree, you may be right, or you may be wrong or we both may be wrong.

Dude, I've helped you out on this question about Mixon who was most likely the best player in the entire draft had it not been for his off-field situation. Next time that you want to back up claims about this guy just type in your search bar....Joe Mixon Draft profile. For me, I've been following him since his freshman year at OU. Interestingly enough, the reason he caught my attention was because I was following Perine.

 

[Krusheasy]

Dude, I've helped you out on this question about Mixon who was most likely the best player in the entire draft had it not been for his off-field situation. Next time that you want to back up claims about this guy just type in your search bar....Joe Mixon Draft profile. For me, I've been following him since his freshman year at OU. Interestingly enough, the reason he caught my attention was because I was following Perine.

dalviin cook >>> joe mixon

 

[Stymietee]

dalviin cook >>> joe mixon

If this is a question......er....No!!

If this is a statement, then we will have to agree to disagree on that score.

 

[olympicoscar]

Dude, I've helped you out on this question about Mixon who was most likely the best player in the entire draft had it not been for his off-field situation. Next time that you want to back up claims about this guy just type in your search bar....Joe Mixon Draft profile. For me, I've been following him since his freshman year at OU. Interestingly enough, the reason he caught my attention was because I was following Perine.

NO, I'm not going to do that. If I did then it's not me. There are more than enough draft mistakes made that I don't have to emulate those mistakes by claiming their mine.

I, not google am responsible for what I said. I just think Mixon is the better player of the two based on things I've seen.

I respect your opinion, this is mine.

 

[Krusheasy]

If this is a question......er....No!!

If this is a statement, then we will have to agree to disagree on that score.

based on their first two weeks of productions

its a fact

 

[Stymietee]

NO, I'm not going to do that. If I did then it's not me. There are more than enough draft mistakes made that I don't have to emulate those mistakes by claiming their mine.

I, not google am responsible for what I said. I just think Mixon is the better player of the two based on things I've seen.

I respect your opinion, this is mine.

I'm not asking you to take someone else's opinion and use it as your own. The question was "why?" remember? What difference does it make when what you've "seen" matches what been written about him just as long as it's true?

 

[olympicoscar]

I'm not asking you to take someone else's opinion and use it as your own. The question was "why?" remember? What difference does it make when what you've "seen" matches what been written about him just as long as it's true?

How many times do I have to tell you, I like the way he runs and cuts and sees openings. Ok. It's just an opinion. Leave it alone already.

 

[Stymietee]

based on their first two weeks of productions

its a fact

Really?? This is the measure that you're going with? Stats are nice, but the eye test accounts for a lot in player evaluation. How will stats account for allusiveness? Ability to get that extra yard when another cannot? Making something out of nothing? Blocking ability or receiving capabilities?

 

[Stymietee]

How many times do I have to tell you, I like the way he runs and cuts and sees openings. Ok. It's just an opinion. Leave it alone already.

OK, I'm out!