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Penn State vs Notre Dame.

Ron G

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You know, I think Alabama or Ole Miss would have crushed both Penn State or Notre Dame. NOT
 

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Freeman needs to be a NFL Coach.

This evening he watched his quarterback get concussed in the first half, miraculously pass protocol during halftime, and then he called so many keepers that said quarterback wound up with 18 carries ( for 35 yards ).

That type of shenanigans might fly with disposable college players, but doesn't tend to last long when the owner is paying the quarterback $50M a year.
 

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Worst FG team in the nation comes through.
 

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If your notion about the players' concern for impressing scouts held any water, we wouldn't see players opt out of bowl games. For most players, the NFL Combine is the critical day, and it is certainly not a September game against a MAC team.
Players opt out of bowl games to avoid risking injury. They are being scouted in every game and their tape is reviewed throughout the season.

I agree that the combine is important to a degree as well but they even plaster notes and habits of players during the combine based on their findings from the season.

I’m sure you’ll have a rebuttal to this but I’m good, carry on man.
 

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Maybe, but some guys are just born to be a college coach.

College and professional coaching are completely-different animals, because professional coaches (usually) have almost no influence on their roster, while recruiting is arguably the biggest part of college coaching. A college coach can achieve a lot of success just by being a sufficiently excellent salesman that he fields better players across the board than most of this opponents -- almost any play works when your guys are just better -- while a professional coach usually has roughly-equal talent ( particularly in salary-capped leagues ) and has to out-coach his opponent.
 

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This evening he watched his quarterback get concussed in the first half, miraculously pass protocol during halftime, and then he called so many keepers that said quarterback wound up with 18 carries ( for 35 yards ).

That type of shenanigans might fly with disposable college players, but doesn't tend to last long when the owner is paying the quarterback $50M a year.
Do you really think that if in the league championship Patrick Mahomes went to the tent and passed the protocol, he would be kept out of the second half. Especially, if the Chiefs were losing at halftime.
 

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Players opt out of bowl games to avoid risking injury.

Which is exactly the same reason why they'd opt out of meaningless regular season games. Which was my point. That's literally what load-management is all about.

They are being scouted in every game and their tape is reviewed throughout the season.

To some degree, yes, but the NFL still places enormous and outsized importance on Combine "measurables" versus on-field performance. The belief is held by most professional teams in several sports that it is much easier to teach a great athlete how to play the game than it is to teach a kid who knows how to play, to be a great athlete. While that's true, it also does not matter, and there are thousands of examples.

Players with impressive on-field results and relatively poor "measurables" will be picked much later than they should be, and we'll hear the same cliches about their skills "not transferring to the next level".
 

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Do you really think that if in the league championship Patrick Mahomes went to the tent and passed the protocol, he would be kept out of the second half. Especially, if the Chiefs were losing at halftime.

Where did I say that? I did not. I said it was a miracle that Leonard passed the protocol, much less than an hour after being knocked out of the game due to a bunch of hard hits. I also said the subsequent decision to confuse him with Jim Brown and ride him like he's a fullback was not one that most NFL corporations would tolerate.
 

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You know, I think Alabama or Ole Miss would have crushed both Penn State or Notre Dame. NOT

We beat the hell out of this same Penn St team with a lesser Olemiss team last year..

So, yea you probably right.. LOLOL
 
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